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North police: Teens like 'two tornadoes'
BY DAVID LINTON SUN CHRONICLE STAFF
Tuesday, August 7, 2007 12:16 AM EDT


A crime scene photo taken by North Attleboro detectives shows some of the damage in a classroom at the town's middle school. (Courtesy of the North Attleboro Police)




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NORTH ATTLEBORO - Young vandals who one investigator likened to "two little tornadoes" went on a crime spree early Monday, breaking into cars, toppling tomb stones and causing thousands of dollars in damage to the middle school.

The suspects, ages 13 and 14, were arrested several hours after police and fire officials responded to the middle school about 2 a.m. and discovered a wave of vandalism throughout the school.

School officials are still trying to tally the damage and determine what can be repaired through cleaning, rather than having to be replaced.

Preliminary estimates put the damage at tens of thousands of dollars and possibly as much as $50,000, Superintendent Rick Smith said.

"It's very disappointing to learn that there are children who have so little respect for such an important town entity - our middle school," Smith said.
The vandals knocked over trash barrels, sprayed a fire extinguisher around the school, splattered paint, glue and coffee grounds over carpeting and equipment and emptied desk drawers of their contents onto the floor.

The vandalism occurred in 15 different areas on the first and second floors of the school off Landry Avenue, including classrooms, hallways and stairways, according to police and school officials.

Although shocked by the extent of the damage, Smith expressed concern for the suspects.

"I'm concerned for the well-being of these two kids and what is going on in their lives that would lead to this behavior," he said.

"There's no question that when school opens, the evidence of this episode will be gone, but the fact that it happened will continue to trouble us," Smith said.

Smith said he expects the town's insurance carrier to pay for the cost of the clean up and repairs. He added that that the legal system would require some type of restitution as one of the consequences of the teens' actions.

The two suspects were arrested walking on Spring Street after being spotted by officers Paul Lalancette and Gary Maitland.

The trail of the suspects had been tracked by a state police dog, and they were linked to the vandalism by physical evidence found at the middle school, Detective Lt. David Dawes said.

He declined to disclose what physical evidence police had.

In addition to vandalizing the school, the teenagers broke into a storage shed at Mason Field and toppled two tomb stones at St. Mary Cemetery off Towne Street, Dawes said.
They also threw grave ornaments, flowers and flags from four other graves at the cemetery and vandalized a maintenance truck at Mount Hope Cemetery, Dawes said.

"When you have someone's grave desecrated, it doesn't get any lower than that," Dawes said. "And when people ask why, there isn't a reason."

Leo Raymond of North Attleboro visits his wife's grave almost everyday and was a "little ticked off" when he found the two solar lights taken from the grave and smashed.

"I think it was kids who have nothing else better to do," Raymond said. "I think that when they knock over the grave stones, that's really bad."

The suspects also broke into a car on Janice Lane and stole a laptop computer, which they destroyed, Dawes said.

The vandalism spree was investigated by Dawes and Detective John Reilly, who were assisted by Sgts. Shane McKenna and Joseph DiRenzo.

Dawes said the suspects were charged with several counts of breaking and entering, malicious destruction and defacing a grave.

The suspects were being held on bail, pending arraignment today in Attleboro Juvenile Court.
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tg wrote on Aug 8, 2007 1:31 AM:

" maybe you should all stop sayin WE should respect everyone maybe you all should take some time to respect US kids and then ull see we will all get along "

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m&j wrote on Aug 8, 2007 1:26 AM:

" "I dont think that they dont deserve to be put in juvie or jail. *I LOVE THEM TO DEATH*! Obvously they had a reason to do that to the middle school.Like the princible or teachers saying that there nothing and giving them crap. p.s. I LOVE YOU GUYS (: ~BF4L~ "

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cherry wrote on Aug 7, 2007 11:31 PM:

" u think everyones gonna think ur badass. everyone just thinks u r a dumbass and u were probably high and ur friends posting comments sayin ur good kids isnt foolin anyone "

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tg wrote on Aug 7, 2007 11:20 PM:

" these kids be my good friends and i hope they alright i informed them about juvi and it all be good so say what you want but u aint gonna bring them down "

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victim wrote on Aug 7, 2007 11:18 PM:

" they stole my laptop they keep discriminating upon r people they should go to juvie for a long time "

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tCx210 wrote on Aug 7, 2007 10:58 PM:

" Im good friends with these guys as well. I would def never expect them to do something liek this.But I know that they will look back on this and realize that it was stupid to do.Try them as adults? yeah screw that, they're not even 18, or 16 for that matter.So try them as minors, liek they should be. And I agree with those people who keep saying "you parents probably did some stupid crap back in your time" because you parents probably have, it most likey wasnt as stupid as this but it was still stupid, and dont deny it if you have. Stay strong boys, we got you.=] And to be totally honest.I couldnt wait to get out of that school. "

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concerened citizen wrote on Aug 7, 2007 10:45 PM:

" This is absolutely devastating, I cannot believe two young citizens of our beautiful town would have zero respect for public property. They deserve jail time. "

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student of NAMS wrote on Aug 7, 2007 10:44 PM:

" What these two young kids did, was obviously performed only because their parents neglected them to the point where they had zero respect for anything, which would lead them to do something which would give them attention. They knew that this would result in a harsh punishment, so i don't understand why they'd do such a terrible thing to our community. They deffinetly deserve to serve jail time, but not too long or they'll be too emotionally scared to attempt to clean up their life after. Their punishment should be realistic and fair, but they should deffintly not get away with the extreme damage they have done to their OWN SCHOOL! I personally know one of the criminals who did this, and its very unfortunate and shocking to hear this terrible news. The parents of these two kids need to be involved in their kids lives. This is a wake up call to all parents to keep a closer eye on there kids. It will mean saying "You're not allowed to do that." When every other parent allows their child to do that. Stricter rules must be placed in order for something like this to rarely happen again. They will feel extremely ashamed of themselves when they are locked up behind bars. They will deffinetly regret what they've done. When kids are raised in an insecure unsafe environment, it's so unfortunate to see them break the law, especially since they're young too. "

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cm wrote on Aug 7, 2007 10:32 PM:

" wow people. im very goo friends with the boys if you think that they sshould be put awway for this is bulll. sure they have no reason to dothat but they are kids okay. dont give them the punishment of a adult cause they arent adults they arent 18 wow. for the parents im sure you have done somthign stupid in your life but they made this mistake and im sure they take it back and they arent "two tornadoes" they are great kids. dont judge them by twhat that did thats bull "

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JCH wrote on Aug 7, 2007 9:45 PM:

" Vigorously prosecute these criminals as well as their parents!!!!!! Did they not teach them anything????????? North Attleboro is a great town and doesn't need people like this living in it! "

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Kristina wrote on Aug 7, 2007 9:18 PM:

" What a bunch of immature dumbasses. they shouldn't be allowed to go to the high school. this wasnt a mistake, they're just stupid. true, they're kids, but what they did was totally NOT a mistake, you dont vandalize a bunch of different places, then reflect on it like "oops". they probably felt badass. if they hadn't gotten caught that night they probably would have been caught by telling a bunch of people what they had done, because they're obviously starved for attention. "

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to megggg wrote on Aug 7, 2007 9:14 PM:

" " "ahah goodjob boys,i love you both so much! :) dont worry about wat all these worthless ppl think,i give u guys propsss ahah rite on :))" " WHAT?!?! how can you be proud of them?? how would you feel if a gravestone of one of your loved ones was completely destroyed?? "

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upset wrote on Aug 7, 2007 9:07 PM:

" that was my school! i probably would know these kids... im going into high school this year, and the older kid who helped vandalize everything is most likely going into high school too. i dont want a classmate who does things as destructive and dangerous as this. these kids mut have been pretty angry at the world, and i think their parents should pay more attention to them so that something like this doesnt happen again. "

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MC wrote on Aug 7, 2007 9:07 PM:

" I know one of the boys very well, He has spent many nights at our home. I must say he has always been a pleasant child. I dont know what was going through his mind when they did this but they are young and will make mistakes. I am sure they regret all of what they did. I just dont think it is fair to take away their education where will they be when they are 18 with no schooling? Whats that teaching them? As far as the parents go, well I also know them and I can honestly say they are nice people and really shouldn't be blamed. Kids make mistakes. "

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cocoa wrote on Aug 7, 2007 9:04 PM:

" ........also they should be put in jail for 2-3 days "

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cola wrote on Aug 7, 2007 9:02 PM:

" let them work for thier punishment and all the money goes into paying for the school and they should pay for the break in but for this time give them a break "

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Cleve wrote on Aug 7, 2007 8:49 PM:

" I can't wait until The Sun Chronicle makes everyone sign his or her real name to these posts. There will be one or two here. "

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... wrote on Aug 7, 2007 8:36 PM:

" One of my family members works at a prison and the issues she deals with is nothing compared to this. People are in there for rape, murder, and a lot worse. And to add to that, the people in there are over the age of 18, adults, and know better. These are just immature kids causing mischief that CAN be fixed. Once you are raped, killed, theres no going back, what's done has been done, you CANT fix it. You only live once. These kids didnt do anything all that bad. They dont belong in prison. There are worst scenarios and situations other than this and people just dont understand. Yah, give them a good punishment that will teach them well, but your out of your mind if you want to put to little boys in jail for vandalism that were just trying to have fun, and didnt know the consequences of their actions. "

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mike wrote on Aug 7, 2007 8:29 PM:

" you kids are really bad but i think u guys should only get 6 month probation but it was disrespectful for what u did but u people who keeps saying bad thing to the kids should not say any thing bad because they are good kids and i bet u parents did bad things when u were young so shhhhhh "

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nams mom wrote on Aug 7, 2007 8:27 PM:

" some advice for all of the shocked parents out there NEVER SAY NEVER. now is a good time to be honest with our selves about our own kids and not be so quick to pass judgment on others.what these kids did was bad but they are not the first to vandalize a school or a graveyard. we have a legal system to deal with them. our job as parents is to make sure its not our kids who do it the next time. "

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another nams mom wrote on Aug 7, 2007 8:10 PM:

" i think the best advice i ever got when i became a mom was never say never.this is a great time for parents to be honest with them selves about their own kids and keep an even closer eye on them. i know my own children have done stuff that has caused me to blush and hadnt thought them capable of,and these are high honers students who dont have any family issues "

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Matt Moreau wrote on Aug 7, 2007 8:00 PM:

" i can't bneleave two kids of that age would do that "

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qwerty wrote on Aug 7, 2007 7:58 PM:

" i am appalled by the actions of these kids. i do not think it is right that anyone should do something like this. the probability that i know these kids is likely...but it is better that they're names are not disclosed to the public because it does not create favor. they should be judged on the severity of their actions no matter the age or personality. they did what they did. and what they did was wrong. "

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j&b wrote on Aug 7, 2007 7:35 PM:

" Really good kids???? Good kids don't do this. These kids are evil. HELLO! I'd put $ on them to end up in Cedar Junction or whatever they'll be calling it in the year 2020. "

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mom wrote on Aug 7, 2007 7:32 PM:

" okay i know everyone is upset, so am i but these are good kids who went wrong. But not only are they and there parents to blame, SO are we as a community. Kids are this way to blame because we parents let them be...were trying so hard to give them everything we didn't have that we forget about teaching morals and values. we buy their clothes, we supervise their grades, we let them get away with it. It's time to change what we are doing because it isn't working and making an examples of these boys is not the answer. not my kid.....is what got us here. "

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NA Grad wrote on Aug 7, 2007 7:25 PM:

" I agree with a previous poster that the liberal experiment has failed. I remember the good old days (not too long ago, I'm 35) at the NA Jr. High. We had a principal, former Marine if I remember correctly, who never cracked a smile. You knew he meant business. We walked on the right hand side of the hallway and held the door for the person behind us. It was a well oiled machine. A little fear is good. I was afraid of getting in trouble, so I never did. I would rather have the kids have a little fear of authority instead of fear of being harmed by their fellow students who are completetely out of control. "

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natie wrote on Aug 7, 2007 7:11 PM:

" i agree with kimball. those kids should apologize to familes. but i dont think they're parents should pay for the damage. they should get jobs being payed minumum wage to pay for thier damage "

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67349067 wrote on Aug 7, 2007 6:32 PM:

" mr- you have no idea what you're talking about.. you dont have any clue of the story because everything i just heard come out from your mouth is false information. dont speak if you dont know whats going on because your giving people the wrong aspect. thanks! [= "

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Jacob wrote on Aug 7, 2007 6:32 PM:

" How could kids so young want to do something this bad to a town park and a cemetary. These PUNKS should have to pay the 50G for all the mess they made in the town. "

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Jackie Kimball wrote on Aug 7, 2007 6:29 PM:

" I understand that they are young, but all the more reason to teach them and make them see how serious vandalism is. My Grandmother and Uncle (who was a cop for the NA police dept.) was found knocked over. It irritates me when such disrespect is shown to ANYONE let alone it being my loved one who've passed on. In my opinion, these 2 indiviuals should be put on a 1-2yr probation, that way they wil have a curfew. I think they should be heavily involved in fixing and cleaning up the school and apologize infront of the staff and students. I also think they should have to personally apologize to families, who's loved ones headstones, or gravesites were ruined, face to face. "

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lupez wrote on Aug 7, 2007 6:26 PM:

" Just showing you how many kids are sticking up for this inspickable incident really shows you how bad the kids have come today. God only knows how the kids will be in the future.. Just be aware. "

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=] wrote on Aug 7, 2007 6:16 PM:

" Personally, the boys are actually really good kids from knowing them in person, no one thats never met them can say that they aren't because you obviously dont know the boys from experience. They made a really stupid move and I disagree with their actions. As you know, the times these days have changed drastically and kids are out of control. I can only think of what 2 and 3 year olds will be like in the near future... No matter how hard you try to teach your kids from good to bad they will most definitley rebel. It's a promise. I'm sure the parents of these 2 boys taught them from right to wrong just as all you parents reading this taught your children. It's just a known fact that kids WILL go against you and there is NO reasonable way to keep them in control. Teenagers do need their space to grow and learn from others, and parents/guardians need to let them go eventually. It's just the way that life is today. They do deserve a harsh punishment, don't get me wrong, but I do find that jail time is completely unreasonable. Probation, Community Serveice, etc. will teach these kids, but do not take away their childhood life because of one night that I'm sure they'll regret for the rest of their life. It's just not fair. "

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Susannah wrote on Aug 7, 2007 6:05 PM:

" Make the parents of these kids pay for all the damage! We should start making parents be responsible for the actions of their children under 18, then maybe they would start discipling and shaping them into responsible caring adults who contribute. How many of you people out there are sick and tired of paying and paying for all the kids and adults out there who are robbing and raping and damaging all of us! Parents have a responsibility to raise their children right. I am so sick of incompetent parents who can't raise their own kids so society pays for them forever. "

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Mother of NAMS students wrote on Aug 7, 2007 5:55 PM:

" I can not believe that people stick up for this behavior or believe that the punishment is too harsh..thats why kids are out of control today..because they get away with it...They have lost their right to attend the school ...let them do community service for the school yr instead,they can work to pay back ALL the money it will cost to clean up the mess "

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mr wrote on Aug 7, 2007 5:54 PM:

" i know these kids i went to the school and saw lots of damage the soda machine they tried to take the money they destroyed about 40 graves shattered them or tor them off i went to the graveyard to take a look they did it for attention they think its cool they deserve high price charges and oviously should go to different school there parents should be a little better about there kid both kids parents ones a high schooler and the others gonna go to 8th the did lots of damage and thats just bad what they did to the graveyard that was very disrespectful they also took the bulb out of the vending machine and they took the powerades many ornaments tops of gravestones and gravestones were shattered they used tools and then must of smashed them against each other they deserve high punishment they knew what they were doing "

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cg wrote on Aug 7, 2007 5:39 PM:

" ARE YOU KIDDING, why the hell would you charge them as adults. TREAT THEM AS THEY ARE. KIDS. Like you never messed up in your life "

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rockie wrote on Aug 7, 2007 5:38 PM:

" thats my school those punks trashed! and my friend's grave was wrote on. what kind of idiots raised these kids?! they should get jobs to pay off ALL the damage, write a public apology to the town through a newspaper, and do community service hours without pay. anyone who says these kids dont deserve punishment is completly off thier rocka "

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rockie wrote on Aug 7, 2007 5:37 PM:

" those boys should go to hell =] "

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rockie wrote on Aug 7, 2007 5:27 PM:

" thats my school those assholes trashed! and my friend's grave was wrote on. what kind of idiots raised these kids?! they should get jobs to pay off ALL the damage, write a public apology to the town through a newspaper, and do community service hours without pay. anyone who says these kids dont deserve punishment is completly off thier rocka "

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disgusted wrote on Aug 7, 2007 5:16 PM:

" I am a twenty year old college student. When I read about these things, it makes me sick. I have a sister who is 13 years old, and at 13 years old she is not sleeping over her friends houses without close supervision, and she is NOT sneaking out at 2AM, nor does it cross her mind, she isnt even allowed to go to the mall alone. These kids obviously need something serious to be done if they are having such "fun" at this age. If my child ever pulled this I would tell the judicial system to put them in jail. Anyone who does something like that at this age has a problem and needs something to be done about it. At thirteen I knew EXACTLY what I was doing and knew perfectly the difference between right and wrong. Maybe a month or whatever of jail will set them straight, and if they dont go to jail, they DO deserve a strict punishment maybe even house arrest. We cannot have these NUSANCES running around free on the streets regardless of their age. This world is going down the drain and if something isnt done about it then the world will be coming to an end quite quickly!! "

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Concerned wrote on Aug 7, 2007 5:07 PM:

" Short of chaining your child to the bed at night, when are sleeping it is easy enough for a troubled youth to "leave" the house. Don't be foolish enough to think that couldn't happen. These boys are troubled and they will be paying for their actions I'm sure. Don't be so quick to right a 13 or 14 year old off for life. They are good souls that have obviously strayed off the right path. Give them the opportunity to pay for their actions and hopefully they will reform their ways. "

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Sick of excuses wrote on Aug 7, 2007 4:56 PM:

" I'm so tired of "they're just kids" or "boys being boys". That's total BS. You learn right from wrong at an early age and if they can't even respect the DEAD they're pathetic. LAME EXCUSES! "

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C.B. wrote on Aug 7, 2007 4:49 PM:

" "They seem to be real good kids to me. Maybe their real good parents can get a real good lawyer to get them off" "

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infurated parent wrote on Aug 7, 2007 4:39 PM:

" I cannot believe what I am reading here. "These are good kids"...are you kidding me! Good kids DO NOT sneak out of their homes at 2:00 am and destroy property. And the parents are most certainly not as "involved" as they should be or their kids would not dare to commit these acts. These kids should be prosecuted to the fullest extent possible, and the parents should be made to pay for the damage. Maybe then the kids wouldn't consider doing this again, and the parents may watch them better. I do not believe that a child would "sneak" out of their home if they were worried about the consequences of being caught, therefore I think these parents need to take responsibility and punish the kids accordingly, in addition to whatever the court system does. To protect their children now only tells the kids that mommy and daddy will cover for us in the future. My kids were made to be responsible for their actions from a very young age, and though it was hard on them (as us) their father and I believed that this was the only way for them to understand the consequences of their actions. More parents need to take this stand with their young children, so that maybe this kind ridiculous destructive behavior will stop. "

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To all who say you know them wrote on Aug 7, 2007 4:25 PM:

" You're pathetic when you say 'they're good boys, don't judge them'. How can we NOT judge them? Their actions speak loud and clear. I for one can see that and so can many others. I hope they get jail time. They deserve it. They're parents should be part of the suit as well since they're minors and they're parents are supposed to be responsible for them. "

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To "to CG" wrote on Aug 7, 2007 4:21 PM:

" You're kidding right? Good kids, no one thought they would do this. If they are guilty and have fooled so many people they should be locked away. "

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AB wrote on Aug 7, 2007 4:14 PM:

" i agree with 'agreed with ab, ak, cg' yeah it was stupid, but they are kids. to go to juvi is out of hand. these kids aren't that bad, they just made a stupid decision. everyone does once in a while. and its not the parents fault, stop making them seem like bad parents. yeah okay bye. GOOD LUCK BOYS[:! "

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to CG wrote on Aug 7, 2007 4:06 PM:

" THESE KIDS ARE GOOD KIDS. I WOULD KNOW I'VE KNOWN THEM BOTH FOR A LONG TIME. NONE OF THEIR FRIENDS OR FAMILY WOULD EVER EVER THINK THEY WOULD DO SOMETHING SUCH AS THIS. WE ARE ALL SOSOSO SHOCKED WITH THESE ACTIONS. I know for a fact they were not planning this that night, it was something out of the blue. If anything they probably did one thing which led to something worse because they thought it was fun and didn't know until after how much damage it caused. It's like drugs..one leads to one worse and so on. You don't know them and after this i don't even feel i know them even though we are close friends. good luck boys "

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scared wrote on Aug 7, 2007 4:01 PM:

" Wow! It's a little scary to think of the damage they could have caused with kids in the building! How safe are our kids here? "

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agreed with ab, ak, cg wrote on Aug 7, 2007 3:59 PM:

" i know both of them personally and they ARE good kids. just because someone does one stupid thing doesn't mean they're bad people. ok maybe they caused alot of damage but was anyone physically hurt? no. things might've just gotten out of hand. i don't think the parents should be blamed either because obviously you adults don't know how easy it is for kids to sneak out these days. i think these 'teens' should get a fine and thats all, they've obviously learned their lesson because from what i've heard people have seen them recently and they haven't looked too happy. i think you should learn how kids act these days before you start accusing people of being bad parents, and kids for being threats to society. GOOD LUCK BOYS, I LOVE YOU(: just don't do it againnnnn, but i know you wont. you're good guys and thanks to everyone that agrees that they're good kids, because you obviously have MET them and haven't judged them for doing one stupid thing. oh and the boys arent gonna be 'screw ups' when theyre older, sorry. i bet this is the last stupid thing they'll do. "

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a graduate wrote on Aug 7, 2007 3:56 PM:

" theres no excuse for $50,000 worth of damage thats like payin for college. idc how old they are they deserve to be put in jail for at least a year just to scare them it'll teach them a good lesson. the parents should have to pay for at least 1/2 the damage. theres a curfew in na and kids shouldnt be out in the street at 2 am. theyre lucky if a high school accepts them into the school once they see this on their records. i for one think they shouldnt be allowed to north this was such a great town and now overthe years i've watched it go downhill bc of the damn middle school kids. smarten up and just think be4 you do sumthin so damn stupid. "

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Mad in N.A wrote on Aug 7, 2007 3:49 PM:

" I have 2 boys that attend the Middle School and this is a awful. Both the kids and parents are too blame for this. I know that my boys are in by 9PM and safe and sound. Were are the parents at 2AM? "

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ridiqulous wrote on Aug 7, 2007 3:29 PM:

" i blame the freeking parents for this cause because a normal kid with a normal childhood does not go around doing 50,000$ of damage yo. and Im pretty shore they regret it. they are just kids kids do extremely stupid stuff though. "

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To CG wrote on Aug 7, 2007 3:26 PM:

" Yeah, right, these kids are NOT good people based on their actions. Are you kidding me? Trying to convince us they are good people? You're out of your friggen tree. "

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Seriously! wrote on Aug 7, 2007 3:25 PM:

" Are you all forgetting the seriousness of this crime(s)? Over 50K damage? I think you all need to take a step back and see all the damage that was done and then rethink your 'slap on the wrist' answer. "

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AK wrote on Aug 7, 2007 3:24 PM:

" I agree with AB. They did something stupid, they know it. They got out of hand, but Juvi is a ridiculous punishment. "

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cg wrote on Aug 7, 2007 3:23 PM:

" this is so stupid shut up these kids are good people way to judge them before you know them "

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AB wrote on Aug 7, 2007 3:10 PM:

" this is crazy. I think these kids should just do community service or something. They don't deserve to go to juvi. It was a stupid thing to do, but i think this is getting out of hand. But whatever, they don't deserve this kind of punishment, its ridiculous. Just give em community service. AND! I'm guessing most of these people writing on this are parents, and they don't deserve to 'be punished to the max' or 'have books thrown at them'? You don't see it from the kids point of view, give them a break. Yeah, it was a really stupid and pointless thing to do, but kids will be kids. None of this is worth it. kpeace! "

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Butchie wrote on Aug 7, 2007 3:03 PM:

" To the people who keep saying that they didn't hurt anyone, I bet that if it was your loved one who's grave was desecrated you would have a different opinion. And when I get to keep less of my income because the town's insurance bill goes up as a result of this crime, I've also been affected Personally. The kids should pay dearly for their crime. However, I fear that the lives of kids who are capable of such things are doomed to misery. "

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megggg wrote on Aug 7, 2007 3:01 PM:

" ahah goodjob boys,i love you both so much! :) dont worry about wat all these worthless ppl think,i give u guys propsss ahah rite on :)) "

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Damage Done wrote on Aug 7, 2007 2:52 PM:

" While I am a firm believer in being punished for the crime of which you have ben proven guilty and not what you may have done. But in this case one has to wonder what other acts of vandalism they may have done before getting caught. "

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confused wrote on Aug 7, 2007 2:50 PM:

" why would these two kids do that!!!i mean if they go to that school, then that is disrespectful to their school. well i would want to know their names so i know who the kids are and maybe know why they did that. their punishment should be community service and clean up what they had done to the places' they had vandalized. so yea they should be charged as kids...not adults!! "

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c'mon wrote on Aug 7, 2007 2:42 PM:

" Um, who said I know them? I have no idea who these kids are, haven't heard any names and wouldn't know them if i did. Again, nobody is saying they shouldn't be punished. I highly highly HIGHLY doubt you're going to see a judge put these kids in jail, but good luck with that. They should pay, get probation, have their parents bring them to see a probation officer in the bottom of the grungy attleboro court once a week, and get off probabtion if they don't do anything else. Their parents should have to pay, and they can deal with how the kids pay them back. I hate to tell you, if you have friends that did things not as bad as this, but ended up dead when they grew up, then there is probably some more to the story. I did some bad things as a kid, comparable to this - never would i destroy a headstone - and I turnded out OK. I regret the things I did as a stupid kid. Maybe these kids will be the same as me, maybe they'll end up worse and be worthless, you don't know. Sending them to jail with a bunch of gang banging thugs isn't going to make them better people. I'm all for punishment, jail time if needed, I just don't think it fits here. And I'd bet anything these kids were drunk, which isn't an excuse at all, but it's an explaination. "

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algsilduoivh wrote on Aug 7, 2007 2:27 PM:

" Personally, I think everyones going over the top. These kids did a horrid thing but then again it didnt PHYSICALLY hurt anyone. They deserve a harsh punishment but do not try them as adults, they're kids. Do not take away their childhood because they decided to spice up their "fun" in a gruesome way. Just the fact that were arrested and humiliated probably taught them not to do this ever again. In fact, I KNOW they regret it. Also, it's not the parents fault in which their kids decided to cause such a rucuss. "

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moneil wrote on Aug 7, 2007 2:23 PM:

" C'mon - did you ever destroy a school, cemetary grounds, laptop, or vehicles when you snuck out at 2am? At 13 did you understand right from wrong? Maybe they shouldn't be charged as adults, but they certainly should serve jail time if that is what juvenile court hands down. Let's not cushion this because you know them. What they did is HUGE. This wasn't just a petty offense. I'm also sure they are sorry but mostly sorry because they got caught. Had they not been caught I'm sure they would be enjoying their "secret" with each other and the media attention it has brought. Could a home invasion where people do get injured or killed have been too far off in their future had they not been caught? "

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pj wrote on Aug 7, 2007 2:18 PM:

" I believe there must be a fair punishment out there for these two boys. They should get more than a slap on the hand for what they did. They need to be taught to think long and hard about what they did and what the next punishment might be, if they were stupid and foolish enough to go on another rampage. I do wonder what their parents thought they were doing or where they were supposed to be. I have two children and I always checked on where they were at that age. And as far as "no one was hurt", hurt isn't always a physical thing. I bet the people whose property was damaged and the relatives of those graves that were damaged are in pain. If they were truly sorry about their actions, I doubt if they would have done them to begin with. It really saddens me that this kind of thing happens today, for whatever reason. "

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to C'mon wrote on Aug 7, 2007 2:04 PM:

" I will laugh the day that something like this happens to you and you want the highest punishment possible. How can you imply what they did was 'kid stuff' and minor? Breaking into cars, a school, vandalizing a cemetary are not minor things. It's like someone else wrote, it's not like they stole candy or spray painted SH*T on the wall or something like that. These are serious charges that cost people thousands of dollars. And they should get away with a slap on the hand? I think not! "

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Casbah wrote on Aug 7, 2007 1:56 PM:

" I knew quite a few kids from my youth that did some stupid, malicious things - NEVER this bad however. All of them turned out the same - total jerks...most of them are now dead or in jail where they belong...these punks are worse than any of the ones I knew...LOCK 'EM UP AND THROW AWAY THE KEY --- Di it now, while we can and before it's too late ---- there is absolutely NO HOPE for these idiots... "

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Geminate wrote on Aug 7, 2007 1:51 PM:

" Can't make them work, if they get injured (or fake injury) they could get millions suing the government - which is your money of course. Fair is 3 years without probation, since they are unable to provide restitution. "

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c'mon wrote on Aug 7, 2007 1:49 PM:

" so pretty much, there is no reason for seperating children and adults when it comes to being charged. I mean, nobody is saying what they did wasn't horrible, or that boys will be boys, but take a step back and think for a second. You're going to charge them as adults? We have kids in this country being tried as minors after shooting off guns in school. These kids didn't kill anyone, they didn't even hurt anyone. Yes, yes, they should pay. Nobody is saying it isn't a big deal, you're just going way overboard. Oh, and sorry to hear you never snuck out as a kid. I can tell you, some of my best childhood memories came after i climbed out my window. I must be a horrible person, and my parents should be locked up, I can only imagine if my boss and all the people that work for me knew that I was such a monster. "

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Anon wrote on Aug 7, 2007 12:57 PM:

" These kids need to be punished AND pay for clean up. Their parents' have to take at least half of the blame. Why were they out at 2am? Maybe the parents really don't care. Dude - They're sorry? How do you know!?!?! c'mon - I never snuck out a window OR vandalized anything. "

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Moneil wrote on Aug 7, 2007 12:57 PM:

" Why can't the court order them to clean the school under strict supervision when they are out on bail? Why can't the court order them to meet the families of the graves they desecrated? Then make them fix what they did. Maybe the cemetary could put them to work digging graves and doing landscaping to work off the cost of truck damage. Why can't the court order them to meet the person whose laptop they destroyed and do yardwork, clean gutters, shovel snow, etc...until they work off what they owe? To the parents...spend time with your kids. Ask who, what, where, when. Call them at the house they are sleeping over at. When they are going with a group of friends somewhere show up to check on their safety. It's when they are with their peers that they sometimes need the most parental guidance. You are the parents, take control and be involved in your child's life! "

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to old greg wrote on Aug 7, 2007 12:46 PM:

" Congrats on getting so many s*x**l references in one short post. I have a theory that "c'mon", "dude" and "holdup" are relatives of the kids who did this. "

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jen wrote on Aug 7, 2007 12:34 PM:

" First of all, Ron needs to slow down on the name calling. Not ALL kids are punks! Yes they did wrong and it's unbelievable what they did. Jail is not the place for them. Community service is a great idea and probation. The disrespect to the community is sad. Kids are out of control nowadays. It's really sad. Not all parents are "Bad" either. Kids can be sneaky and give you a tough time these days. I do like the sign around the neck thing, but I think they would be too harrassed. "

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RLincoln wrote on Aug 7, 2007 12:25 PM:

" "you ever snaek out a window when you were a kid?" No. But I had respect for my parents, other people and their proprty. I hope the town sues the parents for all damages, and the parents in turn make their kids work off the debt, no matter how many decades it takes. There are SERIOUS anger management issues here, not just kids "learning and experimenting". The experiment has already failed, and its name is Parenting. "

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old greg wrote on Aug 7, 2007 12:05 PM:

" im old gregg, im a scaley man-fish, and this is quite heart breaking and kids make mistakes sometimes, this one just happpened to be a big one. but i still love these 2 mothalickas more than baileys in a shoe "

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to c'mon and dude wrote on Aug 7, 2007 12:03 PM:

" No. I didn't sneak out at 2:00 am when I was a kid. This was a spree. This wasn't a candy bar being shoplifted or "S*CK It" spray painted on the side of a building. This was damage equal to taxes paid by 10 or more homeowners in town. What if they came and did $50,000 worth of damage to your home? I'm sorry but "boy's will be boys" does not cut it here. As far as telling their parents that they were at each other's houses- shame on the parents for not checking. They want to be like grown ups and be out late, let them pay like grown ups. "

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Borat wrote on Aug 7, 2007 11:58 AM:

" VERY NICE. HOW MUCH??[; "

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Ron wrote on Aug 7, 2007 11:56 AM:

" The older I get, the more I HATE kids. The laws need to be changed. These BRATS names need to release in The Newspapers. The Little IDIOTS need to be in prison for a few days. "

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holdup wrote on Aug 7, 2007 11:56 AM:

" exavtly, but they obviously won'tdo it again.. "

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Kris wrote on Aug 7, 2007 11:24 AM:

" To Holdup: Regrets??? They went from place to place, all around town. They had many chances to stop. It wasn't like they freaked out in one spot because they couldn't control themselves. The only regret they have is that THEY GOT CAUGHT!!! "

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to C'mon wrote on Aug 7, 2007 10:57 AM:

" Are you kidding me? Not charging them as adults or sending them to spend time in jail? It's what they should absolutely get. Did you see the damage they caused? It was totally intentional, not isolated either....they destroyed a plethera of things. "

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holdup wrote on Aug 7, 2007 10:51 AM:

" I agree with c'mon. Although you can blame the parents partially but kids these days are sneaky. It is quite easy to sneak around without parents knowing. They could of said they were sleeping over eachother's house and decided not to even bother wiht the hosues. Think about it, not everybody expects there kids to do stupid things such as this. You don't hound your kids when they sleepover their good friends house now do you?? I personally knew these kids and they are not ones to do this type of stuff. I don't understand why they did but it was just plain idiotic. Regrets are here definitely..i don't see why there are suggestions about jail and such..it is completely unnecessary. I am guessing these boys just need to chill out more on the meaning of "fun" "

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c'mon wrote on Aug 7, 2007 10:50 AM:

" you ever snaek out a window when you were a kid? not everything is the fault of the parents. again, they're kids. make them pay and punish them. If you're looking to throw some kids in jail, go to Dorchester and grab the ones shooting at each other. "

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Coleman wrote on Aug 7, 2007 10:45 AM:

" You all know that the court is going to look at the home life of these 2 kids and get ready to hear the violins play. Know matter what we all think should happen to them (they should have to wash the police cars, dig graves from now til they are 18 with a sign around there neck saying what they did)They will probably only get a fine and propation and this will disapear when they are 18. "

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TAXPAYER wrote on Aug 7, 2007 10:41 AM:

" Mr. Smith. You feel bad for these kids and what will become of them. Okay, we've had our liberal hand wringing over what will become of them, we know what they are - criminals. Kids this age wandering the streets at 2:00am. Shouldn't some liberal social agency be going to the parents house and finding out why these two thugs are unsupervised at that hour? The ironic thing is, if the two kids were found r*p*d and dead on the side of the road we'd all be hearing about what wonderful kids they are. Kick them out of school and they don't come back until they pay for the damage. If we go to the insurance company for all this and some nice numbers tally in the "reasons to raise the premiums in North Attleborough column". "

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dude wrote on Aug 7, 2007 10:22 AM:

" First of all, these kids are now in High School. And do you know how long it will take them to pay all that back. I agree they should do community service until it is paid off. Although what they did was very harsh, they are kids..and should be charged AS KIDS. Not adults, are you crazy?!?!? There is a reason for underage punishment..it is because they are still learning and experimenting on stuff, everyone does it. They just happened to do an explicit amount of damage which i know how much they regret it. They learn from mistakes, they should have a second chance instead of getting their whole childhoos taken away. We all know how bad this will haunt them. Sh*t Happens. They are sorry. "

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bob saget wrote on Aug 7, 2007 10:18 AM:

" the buddy no go outside "

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common sense wrote on Aug 7, 2007 10:13 AM:

" it's the parents too...where are your kids at 2AM? To hell with insurance, let the boys and their parents pay for the damage, they are legally responsable. Maybe next w/e they will know were their kids are! "

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Kris wrote on Aug 7, 2007 10:09 AM:

" I live out of state now and check in online to see what's going on. I am so incredibly sad about this. I know how hard people work to keep NA a great and beautiful place - from the schools to the parks and athletic fields. They even hit the cemetery. They basically have personally hurt every town employee, town resident, and even those who have been laid to rest in St. Mary's and Mt. Hope - and all of their families. This is beyond outrageous. The police did a great job, as usual. That's the only silver lining I can find in this story. "

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c'mon wrote on Aug 7, 2007 10:09 AM:

" these kids did a bad thing and should be punished and made to pay. lets not go to far here, they're just kids, they didn't kill anyone. i don't see how sending them to jail or charged as adults (stupid idea) would help anything. "

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Unreal wrote on Aug 7, 2007 9:28 AM:

" these kids should be charged as adults. And made to pay for the damages they caused. They don't belong in society, they haven't earned it. "

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Realist wrote on Aug 7, 2007 8:55 AM:

" Kick them out of school and make them work every day until all the damage is cleaned up and paid for. Then let them go back to middle school. Congrats to the State Police Dog. He (or she) showed how much a dog is worth. "

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dude wrote on Aug 7, 2007 8:37 AM:

" wait they can get out on bail!??!?! "

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john wrote on Aug 7, 2007 8:29 AM:

" Prosecute them to the max. make them an example so that other don't copy. "

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Paul Couturier wrote on Aug 7, 2007 7:17 AM:

" These two punks ought to have the book thrown at them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! They AT LEAST ought to pay back the taxpayers of the town for the damage they caused, AFTER their life sentences!!!! "

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Bill Jones wrote on Aug 7, 2007 6:39 AM:

" Cannot believe that people this young have such little respect for their community and those who have passed on. I hope each of them receive a just, but meaningful punishment, not just a fine, which the parents will probably pay, but they should spend time in the community fixing their damage, plus! A few weeks of working in the public eye would be best. "

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