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Court takes bite out of Foxboro dog park



Jessica McElroy keeps her dog "Huck" on a leash Thursday after learning that dogs many no longer run free in the fenced dog park. under a court's temporary order. (Staff photo by FRANK MORTIMER)




FOXBORO - A Land Court judge in Boston issued an order Thursday temporarily ending the operation of a privately run dog park on town land at Cocasset River Park.

In the first step of a suit brought Monday by 17 park foes, Judge Keith Long ordered the immediate removal of all dog park signs and required the town to post a sign saying dogs on the property must be leashed at all times, Town Manager Andrew Gala said.

The judge also ordered that the dog park gates be kept open at all times, Gala said.

"It was all started with such good intentions. I'm devastated that it's come to this," park co-founder Debbie Cunniff said Thursday at the park.

The suit goes to trial next Friday in Land Court.
Selectman Mark Sullivan, one of three board members who attended the court hearing, said the attorney for the plaintiffs told the judge that a child had been bitten at the dog park this week and was taken to a hospital.

Sullivan said the judge cited that alleged incident, plus a complaint by a hiker, Ron Horta, of an encounter with an aggressive dog, in issuing the temporary injunction.

"We're devastated and we're stunned by the allegations that a child was bitten," park co-founder Heather Harding said.

Neither the health department nor the town's dog officer, John Hazeldine, had any record of such an incident. Hazeldine said a biting incident should have been reported to him and to the health department.

The suit argues, in part, that the dog park deprives other townspeople of the passive recreational use for which the conservation land was preserved.

In reality, Harding said, Cocasset River Park has long been locked by police, an assertion confirmed by Police Chief Ed O'Leary.

The legal action by residents aiming to close the park brings to a head a dispute dating back to 2006. Harding and Debbie Cunniff opened the park in September of that year after a series of meetings with town boards and gaining an OK by the conservation commission, which controls the land.

Abutters and others have complained about the dogs, and questioned the legality of the operation.

Harding, Cunniff and others supporters are not giving up their cause. Just minutes before they began to mothball the park, they and other signers submitted to the selectmen's office an article they hope to place on the annual town meeting warrant in May.

The article would allow dogs to continue to run free in the park and the area would be "maintained or controlled" by the conservation commission or its designees.
Lead plaintiff Donald A. Baker, whose Milton Lane home abuts the dog park, could not be reached for a comment. A woman who answered the phone at that address said their attorney has asked his clients not to comment on the suit.

Ryan McGovern, 27, of Roslindale, learned of the new rule when he showed up with his boxer, "Doyle." McGovern said that for the past nine months he's driven from Boston to Foxboro for no other reason than to let his dog romp unleashed with other pets.

"I think that it's really unfortunate that the few can spoil it for the many," he said.

"I think it's terrible. This is such a great place for the dogs," said Jessica McElroy, 23, of Cross Street, as she walked her leashed boxer "Huck" within the fenced area. "Huck's going to be very disappointed. He has a lot of friends here."

 


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kingston73 wrote on Mar 4, 2008 5:46 PM:

" Hey Foxres, buddy, how you been? Resting your brain from all the writing you've been doing? You really need to read the things people write before you make any other stupid statements. If you're not a Conlon, or don't live in the Conlon's house, then you must be best friends with one because the things you've written only a resident of 15 Milton would know. How do you know I live in RI? How do you know what I look like, or that I walked the path behind your..I mean, the Conlons, house. And you sure are quick to defend G.C. And since when does "knowing rules" and being a resident go together. Any half way educated person can look up any town ordinance anywhere in the country. You never did respond to my request to discuss things in person, either. Don't worry, I won't hurt you, you can even bring your mommy..... "

mike0214 wrote on Mar 4, 2008 2:34 PM:

" the crazy thing about the Conlons is that when they bought their home...the dog park was already there. These are the type of people who want everything taken care of for them by the government, rather than taking any responsibility for their own failure to conduct due diligence before plunking down 565K for a house. No wonder they're shooting and swearing...they're not rational. I pity the neighbors for their pain and suffering. And no one here should be concerned regarding the teachings of anyone in the school system. The kids in Foxborough schools know better than to be influenced by people like that. Maybe the town should think about putting a landfill there on Mill Street "

GinW wrote on Feb 19, 2008 7:16 PM:

" To work with children as a professional a person must be qualified: they must have education, training, skills, and they must be of sound character. They should exemplify responsible adult behavior.
Responsible adult behavior does NOT include threatening people who pursue lawful business on public land; it does NOT include shooting toward groups of people; it does NOT include spewing vulgarities or obscenities; it does NOT include placing or allowing others to place children at risk, be the risk real, imagined, or invented; it does NOT include attempting to intimidate and threaten others; and it does NOT include making false or exaggerated statements in a court proceeding.
I respect and admire those who work with children. Their jobs are challenging and difficult. Many teachers and coaches have earned my respect and admiration through their character and behavior. However their superiors should conduct a fitness investigation of anyone who works with children and exhibits irresponsible behavior.
I do NOT want my child (or any child) under the influence or in the care of a person who has no self-control, impulse control, or who lacks common decency and common courtesy, honesty, and respect for others.


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foxresident wrote on Feb 19, 2008 6:35 PM:

" Just wondering??If all the fences and now 1 gate going into there not considered a change of use then what is? If its passive recreation then people should be able to walk thru there and not have dirty,muddy dogs all over them.Take ur dogs elsewhere.And with this lawsuit going on now dont you think the conlons have been advised by their lawyer to keep quiet?I think so.Therefore this isnt a conlon or a resident of Milton Lane.But I do love driving by there and seeing the "PARK CLOSED" signs.And there are enough smart people in this town to realize that Mr.Conlon is a great coach and because he feels a dog park is too close to his house doesnt mean their children wont be allowed to play for him.haha Cmon people.thats just comical.When it comes to sports in this town I would say a dog park comes second to any of that.Go ahead though write your editorials.Good luck "

foxresident wrote on Feb 19, 2008 6:25 PM:

" Write anything you guys want about a coach.I have never seen a bigger group of babies in my life.You guys are really comical.This isnt a Conlon so kingston...get a life yourself .Just because your fiance went to school with this kid doesnt mean she knows him.And as for peoples kids playing for him..well thats really crossing the line.Coaching a team and a dog park are 2 separate issues.The dog park didnt follow any of the proper rules before being allowed and there are certain things and rules that need to be followed.If the park was legit in the first place then the conlons really wouldnt have a complaint would they? So you people who post on here that are not residents and dont know rules i would just keep to yourself.And if your all so smart i dont think when the "Dog Park Pack" told a town selectman they didnt care about the rules of the park on saturday helped out their cause . In fact what it really did was dig yourselves deeper and deeper.And it was in the papers..not a she said he said line of crap.Good luck in court on friday .Hopefully you people have taken this week to find a new place thats suitable to take your dogs.Maybe in your own town or state...Ok kingston.I once again am not a conlon so you know it alls can stop blaming them for these posts. "

NotADogOwner wrote on Feb 19, 2008 1:28 PM:

" I believe I am a neutral party to all of this,as I do not own a dog.I have seen and heard both sides of the arguments. By seen,I mean I have seen with my own eyes,a certain neighbor standing on his back porch video taping the park because he has nothing better to do with his life.I have also seen the owners of the dogs picking up after them,and seeing the dogs have a great time with one another.Not once have I heard the dogs barking uncontrollably.It seems to me that when this property was a swimming pool,the kids would have made much more noise.Bottom line is, these neighbors are treating this property like it is theirs. They need to grow up and realize everything can't go their way in life. These people probably never heard the word "no" from their parents growing up. We can see this as there are two 30+ men still living with their mother. If that isn't pathetic I don't know what is. As far as this certain neighbor also being a HS baseball coach, that just appalls me. I would NEVER want my child to learn anything from someone who is as immature as this man who shouts vulgarity from his deck. Do these neighbors not have jobs?The park is open during normal work hours, so there is no reason why these neighbors should be home to complain. I believe I will be writing an editorial about this "coach". "

kyraskye wrote on Feb 19, 2008 12:19 PM:

" Everyone on here knows who it is that has been yelling and cussing everyone out. I know for a fact that on at least 2 occasions the police were called out to deal with situations where threatening words were spoken to users of the dog park- and that was within a 14 hour time frame. We all know which house, and therefore know who it was that was yelling, and I am sure that the police reports that were filed fully reflect that also.
I am sure that the school are well aware of what is going on, and I hope that they are taking action on the persons they have working with our children.

Have a great week everyone...




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kingston73 wrote on Feb 19, 2008 9:06 AM:

" Barkley and all others: Yes, I know I said I wouldn't post anymore, but all of you need to be positive on this fact, the man yelling foul language is 100% Glen Conlon. This isn't a rumor or a statement that is partially true, this is a 100% positive fact. Like I said, I know who he is because I have been confronted by him personally, and my fiance went to high school with him. I'm glad the truth is finally being seen by everybody, and thank you all for reading this and posting here! "

Barkley13 wrote on Feb 18, 2008 10:18 PM:

" Bottom line is foxres is an absolute joke. If it is true you were out on the porch yelling at people in the park you need to get a life. who do you think you are??? I am a teacher and a coach and i could never, NEVER think about acting like an immature, pathetic, moron like that. Apparently there is evidence that it was this coach, and if i were a parent with a kid on that team i would call FHS and demand a removal. Is this how we want our kids to act???? Swearing,bullying innocent people?? I dont get it, who is the park really bothering? Unless people truly have no life, why try and take away from others. Yelling at women and children??? I guess coward is the first word that comes to mind. If your that much of a loser that you want to fight a dog park in court go ahead, but keep the acting like a jerk to yourself. TGhe dog park is not bothering anyone, i have NEVER seen someone get bit, nevermind an angry dog there. Dogs jump on people once in a while in joy, not anger like you have. If you dont want to be jumped on dont go to the park, i think you may need a walk in the state park yourself. There is plenty of room, take a hike, you pathetic waste of space. "

foxresident wrote on Feb 18, 2008 4:48 PM:

" Well im not a Conlon nor am I relted to them.You dont know who i am. "

cassidy29 wrote on Feb 18, 2008 8:51 AM:

" Townie-Your comments were meant to disprove that you had been rude to another person. You are saying that the owner let their dogs jump on you...um it's a dog park. That's what dogs do. If you are afraid of dogs you shouldn't have been in there.
FoxRes: You have posted more on here than anyone. You are mad because I know who you are and the end of the line for your ability to terrorize people is coming to an end. When this case goes to court, the judge will see you yelling at people and that will be that. The problem isn't that the dog park users weren't responsible, it's that you and your friends lied to the judge about who has gotten bitten. You still haven't put your real name on here. If you want people to stop posting to you, stop posting to us. I'd love to meet you in person...except it wouldn't be meeting because I already know who you are. You can't say the same for me. "

kingston73 wrote on Feb 18, 2008 8:43 AM:

" FoxRes, you're finally boring me. It's painfully obvious who you are, or at least where you live and who you're related to. It's amazing how you accuse me of being the coward, when you are the "tough guy" willing to yell at children and women and make threats from the safety of your porch. I'd be more than happy to meet you and discuss this in person, I'm not hiding at all. When did I mentioned anything about the path/property line? As far as that's concerned, I seem to remember an article in the paper stating how that issue was cleared up and the path along the fence was clearly ConCom property. As for the "stupid" posts, well, I know I misspelled a word here and there, but I haven't resorted to using foul language, and I think you spell so poorly on purpose to disguise the fact that you'd look even less educated if you tried to spell properly. I'm done posting now, I've said all I needed to say. You go ahead and get the last word in, what ever satisfies the "huge void" in your life. You are a sad, pitiful person who is also a huge hypocrite. "Me First" ...I think you use that term so often because you understand it so well. "

townie wrote on Feb 18, 2008 12:05 AM:

" hmm ok then "

kyraskye wrote on Feb 18, 2008 12:01 AM:

" I think that spelling is the least of all of our problems-
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townie wrote on Feb 17, 2008 11:48 PM:

" Sorry for my spelling "

townie wrote on Feb 17, 2008 11:46 PM:

" I dont know if that is directed towards me so ill stop.And as for a dss issue well i dont have any clue about that.I made my point and i hope who my message was to saw it and its cleared the air.Im not going to say anymore on here for as i feel like im being put in to the same category as Abutter and Fozres.And that wasnt my intent. "

kyraskye wrote on Feb 17, 2008 11:35 PM:

" As well as- Look who else is on here typing multiple times, do you not have anything better to do with your time? I currently do not as I am at work, and this is a Human Studies interest for me. But you are another grown man who has to have his 2 thousand cents put in because you can not let anything go, everyone is responding to you.

I do hope DSS is looking into the child issues, does anyone know if they have been contacted?

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townie wrote on Feb 17, 2008 11:31 PM:

" What did I do wrong to hear that? Cassidy? you were missing the point i was making.What i was saying was that at one time when i was in there kyraskye was respectful as was I to her dogs.I can recall the whole instance happening and it wasnt a big deal.She had said sorry and that we were new to the dogs and thats why they had been walking around us.Yet a few days later it was a whole different experience while i hac 3 dogs jumping at me while the owner did nothing at all where as kyra was very kind.I was not afraid of the dogs at all and had i been well that would have been a different story.If you read carefully you would see im not for or against the park.I was just commenting and clearing up a previous issue.Mind your business and when something is directed at you then you can comment.Get over yourself cassidy.Its not all about you. "

kyraskye wrote on Feb 17, 2008 11:25 PM:

" foxresident:
You are the ones- the abutters- that are threatening us while we are walking our dogs on Conservation Property. You do not own that path, I remember the day the 'NO TRESPASSING' signs went up! We have been nothing but polite to everyone, even in the face of threats, and extreme profanity. I have been there when one person, walking his dog along the path- and only on the path- not in someones yard- unless you have bought the land that is considered easement, that anyone can use- and he did not invoke the threats that were flung at him, except to acknowledge that there was a person there, yelling at him, threatening and inviting him to come up to his porch, all the man was doing was walking his dog to the park.

Now I ask you-

How do you not see this as a threat' I know who you are...' WOW is this a threat? It is now public knowledge, I think that you are behaving badly, and being the coward. Did you know that the laws are more strict for hurting an animal?

There is only one small difference between a CHILD and a DOG-
2 legs!!!

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foxresident wrote on Feb 17, 2008 11:20 PM:

" YAAAAY!!!!!!Townie!!!yaaaayyy ABUTTER!!!!YAAAAYYY foxres!!! "

foxresident wrote on Feb 17, 2008 11:18 PM:

" And cassidy why would you guys be bashing townie? what did he say that was so wrong? all he was saying was what happened a couple of times he went down there.I really dont think the puppies hahaha scarred him.Maybe he didnt want dirty dogs jumping all over him as he went to a public place in HIS OWN town to skate.I mean it is public recreation correct? yer we change the fence and the gates?but its not a change of use?? Just because you need to fill a huge void in your life by having a dog doesnt mean everyone is as messed up as you and kingston.How many times u n him talk on the phone 2nite?? i can picture it now"oh hey did you see what he wrote now?" ooh yes i did..you go comment then i will too.ok um where are we gonna take our dogs 2morrow??? because were me 1st people and we have 2 find a new spot for fluffy or bandit or haha barky to go and smell n lick other dogs while we just sit there?Your parks closed...DEAL WITH IT!!!! "

foxresident wrote on Feb 17, 2008 11:08 PM:

" do cassidy and kingston have anything better to do than go on here and sound stupid.kingston your really getting on my nerves and i know who you are and i will say that you are a coward.u wanna b a smart &** and walk ur animal thru ppls yards on the property line.well then dont accuse them of video taping you while you walk thru there like a coward with your head down.I dont care who you are or who ur fiance is or what she does in the town.You have a serious problem and if you want to continue to run your mouth like a tough guy well do it in friggen rhode island.Waaaahh my dogs gonna be upset waaa my dog was quiet.waaah my fluffy was yelles at and the funniest of em all waaah we were shot at.hahahahaha cmon will you. "

cassidy29 wrote on Feb 17, 2008 7:21 PM:

" FoxRes: You don't know who I am so don't assume it was me breaking the rules down there. I didn't bring my dog to the dog park that day because I didn't want her to get shot by the abutters with the BB guns. But thanks for checking on me. I actually respect Mark Sullivan and would never have told him no. Unlike Selectman Thrasher, who should be recalled, I think Sullivan does a great job. Why don't you use your real name and I'll use mine next time and we can see who you really are.
Townie: Sorry the puppies scared you. "

cassidy29 wrote on Feb 17, 2008 7:17 PM:

" Yay Taxpayer! "

cassidy29 wrote on Feb 17, 2008 7:15 PM:

" FoxRes: I didn't not put my dog on the leash yesterday when Mark Sullivan was there. Why do you assume it was me? I'm actually a law abider unlike you and the Conlons. My dog was safely at my house away from the abutters who shoot bb's into the park. For that matter, you were probably one of the people that got DSS called for bringing your kids in and putting them in a dog's mouth. Way to go tough guy. Next time, use your real name and I'll use mine and we can settle this like two adults. Oh wait..you won't.
Townie: I'm sorry the big scary puppies made you nervous. "

kingston73 wrote on Feb 17, 2008 7:06 PM:

" As for Townie: If I were to follow your arguement to its logical conclusion: The people driving on the road annoy me, so they shouldn't be there. I don't really like a lot of people in the mall, so maybe they should all leave. I'd like the movie theatre to myself, everybody else please clear out. You and FoxRes and Abutter are all basically saying that because a few of you are annoyed with things, everything needs to change. Nobody limited your use of the park before all this occured, you chose to limit your use. And you you realize that the fenced portion of the park is only a SMALL section of the total conservation land? It streches from 1 end of Mill St. to the other. What's preventing you from using any of the other parts of the park? For that matter, F. Gilbert is just on the other side of the road, what's wrong with using that? And what rule are you refering to where a dog can't approach you? I'm sorry you think things are out of hand, you need to realize that none of this would ever had occured had the abutters handled this differently. The dog park bent over backwards to accomadate them. Like I said, it all comes down to a few "special" people wanting things all to themselves. 1st rule of kindergarten: share with others. "

taxpayer wrote on Feb 17, 2008 6:58 PM:

" Unfortunately for the Milton Lane residents, they were not the only ones using video cameras. Wait to the attorneys as well as the school system gets a copy of the evidence they so strongly deny. Your dirty tactics and false reports to the police and legal system will be exposed. Sorry, but you brought this on yourself. See you at the next meeting sir. "

kingston73 wrote on Feb 17, 2008 6:54 PM:

" FoxRes, again you fail to actually understand the things you read. Cassidy said "By defending them you are just as bad as they are...", which clearly you are. Keep defending them, that's fine. I can't speak for anybody but myself, and I've never violated any of the requirements. If I'd have to choose between somebody who lets their dog off a leash or somebody who shouts foul language from the safety of their own porch, I'll choose the off leash dog anyday of the week. As for following the rules, until yesterday everybody followed all the rules. Nobody has ever said there is NO barking, the signs all said "no EXCESSIVE barking" and there never was. What is this world coming to? I really dislike my neighbors and their dog barks 24/7, but I can't sue them for it. Even if I could, I wouldn't. I'm a better person than that. Since you don't seem to understand any of these arguements, I guess that makes me, Cassidy, Kyra, and all the rest better people than you. Sorry, reality hurst sometimes. "

Townie wrote on Feb 17, 2008 6:44 PM:

" Wow.I have to say reading these comments on here the last few days its getting out of hand.Im not a dog owner yet i have used the park this year and prior to it being a dog park.I wasnt going to comment until a comment caught my eye.Kyraskye..Not to single you out but you had commented about two people walking thru there to the ice and they wer rude to you.well i recall someone asking me if the ice was ok to skate on and i said ah i hope so or i think so.It was not meant to be rude and i didnt think it was.with the issues surrounding this park i wanted to walk thru there and keep to myself.Your 2 dogs were walking on either side of me and there was no problem with that because i heard u calling them back.However a few days later i went back there again to check the ice and there was 1 person and 3 dogs in there and as i opened the gate the 3 dogs were instantly jumping all over me while the owner read the message board.I didnt say a word and kept walking.Some people follow the rules and i will say that from my time in there that there are people who dont. "

Townie wrote on Feb 17, 2008 6:36 PM:

" . "

foxresident wrote on Feb 17, 2008 6:24 PM:

" hey cassidy u little know it all.im not a conlon or related to them.Im just someone who agrees with them.and if you people all followed the rules down there why would u tell a town selectman(who was on your side) you didnt care about the leash laws yesterday down there after the 2nd trip from the police had to go down there.rules are rules.I will say one thing about the park..there are certain people who follow the rules that ive witnessed first hand and there are people who dont. "

kingston73 wrote on Feb 17, 2008 5:17 PM:

" KyraSkye,
sorry you misunderstood me, I wasn't countering anything at all you said, I was responding to FoxRes again. I completely agree with everything you and all the other supporters have written. I want to make sure EVERYBODY, both sides, have all the facts. Like I said before, unfortunately the one side doesn't seem to understand reason or be able to argue with anything other than foul language and threats. I appreciate all of your responses, even you FOXRES and ABBUTTER. I think its abundantly clear who is right and who is wrong here, lets just keep our fingers crossed and hope the judge can see it as well. Oh, and one last thing: there is scientific evidence that there is a gene in people that links us with dogs, it goes back to our ancient ancestors and their dependance on animals for survival. So for you poor dog haters out there, I feel sorry for you and your missing gene. You "musta" missed the boat when some of us evolved. "

cassidy29 wrote on Feb 17, 2008 5:15 PM:

" FoxRes: Keep giving yourself away. The Conlons all but admitted to the things that they have been accused of by responding to letters written by people in the Foxboro Reporter. No one but them said that they did those things until now. By defending them you are just as bad as they are...or you actually are them. "

KyraSkye wrote on Feb 17, 2008 4:54 PM:

" Kingston, I am not in disagreement with you, everything that has happened has happened! We all have witnesses, and we all know what is going on. I am not defending anyone who cusses people out because they can't come to an agreement on something. Our children are being put at risk every time they go to school! We need to work together to get this blown up issue resolved, I along with everyone that I know would give an arm and a leg to have any one of the houses that abut the dog park.

I am not arguing with you or fellow dog lovers. Please do not think I am.


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kingston73 wrote on Feb 17, 2008 4:47 PM:

" FoxRes, I don't know how to make this any more clear for you, I'm not making this up. My fiance was with me every time Conlon was yelling and there the day he threatened me, and she WENT TO HIGH SCHOOL WITH HIM, as well as worked at the same school as he does. I'm not "attacking" anybody, I'm just stating the facts. I really don't care what you feel about Conlon, I know who yelled and shouted threats, and those actions speak far louder than any words you can say. How you can continue to support him is unbelievable, unless you are actually him or related to him. He is without a doubt a liar, as he lied right to my face when he told me he wasn't the same person shouting off his porch. When I asked him who it was if not him, he stated "it could have been anybody". I don't know about you, but random strangers don't appear on my porch in the middle of the day. I'd be more than happy to talk about this with you in person if you'd like, but don't keep telling me how wrong I am and what an upstanding and respectful person Conlon is. I've never threatened anybody, I never shouted back at him when he was swearing. I did call the police when he threatened me, and I did tell him to stop swearing. "

KyraSkye wrote on Feb 17, 2008 4:02 PM:

" Good afternoon,
As many of the visitors to the dog park know, I have 2 dogs that I take there regularly, Siberian Huskies. I was at the park one evening when a dog park friend was threatened, and if that person who threatened him is the same person who is coaching in our high schools than shame on the school district for not stepping up and doing something to curb his aggravation and 'good' name.
You can say anything that you want to about what a fine coach he is, but when it comes to our children and their learning, I will not allow my children around someone who is treating others in a way that he would not like to be treated.

I Know that I have been lied to by one abutter, to my face, and I thought that he was nice, at that point in time I did not know that they were lies, now I do know and I can not trust anything that comes out of his mouth ever again.

I will not lower myself to his level, or ever treat anyone as rudely as he has in the past. I have more respect for people than he ever will.
"

foxresident wrote on Feb 17, 2008 3:24 PM:

" This is directed strictly at kingston.If you want to comment on the people at milton lane thats one thing.But to go and attack someone as a coach in this town or dealing with kids then that is immature on your part and wrong.Mr.Conlon happens to be a very respected and well liked coach in this town and well known and liked in other towns.The dog park is a separate issue from who coaches your kid.What your doing is crossing the line now and your comments speak greatly on the type of people who USED to go back there.Yet had you been from Foxboro or even this state for that matter you would know this. "

kingston73 wrote on Feb 17, 2008 9:09 AM:

" in addition:
I would hope that our justice system will prevail in this case, but after seeing how low these people act, I'm not sure what will happen. The fact that these people are even willing to use their CHILDREN as pawns in this issue is disgusting and disturbing. Yes, I'm almost forgot the last story. There have been several times when an ABUTTER has purposely placed their child in a position to be jumped on or licked by the dogs using the park. I'll finish by saying this, I am not spreading rumors or making any of this up. I personally witnessed all of these stories. I even filed a police report the day 15 milton threatened me and my dog. If any of you reading this have children being coached by this man, keep a sharp eye on him, for your children's sake. I'm a teacher myself, and if I was caught acting this way I would hope the school would fire me, or at least discipline me in some way. I guess that's what makes us different from them, none of us would act like this. "

kingston73 wrote on Feb 17, 2008 9:01 AM:

" Kyra, ParkUser, and all other supporters, if you don't already know what type of people these ABUTTERS are, I need to tell you 2 stories. 1st, like I've said, a 15 milton ln res. (No names, but many of you know who) shouted obscenities off his back porch several times last summer, once directing them at myself specifically when I asked him to stop because there were kids in the park. He recently confronted me again, and when I asked him why he felt the need to shout off his porch, he DENIED it, a blatant lie. I clearly saw him every time he did it and he's not the kind of person you can mistake for somebody else. Keep in mind, this guy is also the foxboro HS coach....great role model. 2nd story: just last night my fiance and I were walking our dog (ON LEASH) when an ABUTTER came out of the woods and started questioning our presence. When we tried to take a picture of him with a camera phone, he ran and hid behind a fence! These people are immature, liars, and bullies. "

KyraSkye wrote on Feb 16, 2008 11:58 PM:

" In addition:
Calling everyone names and insulting peoples pets is just rude!!! I do not want anyone who has this kind of behavior teaching my children anything!!! EVER!!!

I was at the park the day 2 guys- never met them before- came in to go to the pond- Being nice, I asked if the ice was thick enough, I got a pretty snippy comment back, I did not deserve the rudeness that I and my fellow parkers received, I had done nothing rude, and was trying to be nice. That area is for everyone, I, nor does anyone else, complain when people with out dogs come into the park either to look around, or see what is going on.
I have met a few people who were just checking out the place- who did not have dogs yet, but wanted to get a feel for the place.


Again I am very disappointed that people that our children look up to, are behaving as if they were back in elementary school. I have learned more about human nature that I ever wanted to just by watching everyone at the park- everyone including neighbors, friends and also the volunteers. They have been working sooooooo hard to make everything work out and all they are getting in return is snippy people!!!!

Can we all grow up, stop name calling and hopefully act our proper ages??? PLEASE?!?!?!?!? "

KyraSkye wrote on Feb 16, 2008 11:49 PM:

" I am appalled that any one is being so crass!!!!
The people who use the dog park are not 'all about me!' people, when we are there we are doing everything with in our power to ensure that dogs were staying quiet, that if a pile of poo was over looked and we saw it, that we picked it up.
Dog owners are some of the nicest people in the world! The park has been trying to work with everyone to make the dog park work. They limited the hours, put locks up to ensure that the hours were followed, and kept everyone informed!

I have talked to an 'ABUTTER' and I am so disappointed to know that the man that I talked to lied to my face. No one has been able to work anything out with the ones opposed to the park. Conservation land is land that can not be built on, and from what I understand, the land used to be a swimming hole where there were kids yelling and hollering all day.

I am not going to say that dogs don't bark at the park, they do, but I heard more barking coming from outside of the park, neighbors back yards, than from inside the park.

I really hoped that everyone was above the line as adults, but no one seems to realize that kids are there too!!! "

parkuser wrote on Feb 16, 2008 8:57 PM:

" This is not getting anything solved for anyone. If everyone stepped back and thought about this rationally, the fact is that open space is precious for everyone. No matter where you live, even in our small rural towns, it is getting harder and harder to enjoy the simple things and to get along. Do you think that people living near the stadium love the noise and traffic, do you think people in North Attleboro like the traffic on Route One when they try to get home at night, people living on local lakes, with the noise of speed boats and jet skis? Where will it end, what if everyone complained and hired lawyers to keep things from happening in their town? Do you go to the Pat's games, have you gone to the mall, have you used your towns other resources, what if you were stopped from something that was important to you?? You don't have to like dogs, but I find your postings offensive for those that do...

For those complaining about their quality of life living near a dog park that maybe 10-20 people at max there at a time,,,don't you have better things to spend your time and efforts worrying about? And, please stop spreading rumors. The park does not smell, the volunteers have done a wonderful job, and for a select few, it is a shame to ruin it for everyone. "

NotADogOwner wrote on Feb 16, 2008 8:53 PM:

" "I" am not currently a dog owner but I am a dog lover. I was at the dog park about 3 weeks ago for the first time. My girlfriend brought her dog and we met there to let her dog socialize. I think the park is a great idea and that "some" of the people fighting it are a bit mentally unbalanced. I think some of these people in the suit have never heard of a counter suit. Record my voice and there will be another suit ! ! Do you people with the camera even have a job, or are you thirty something and still attached to your mommy's breast? BREAK FREE and get a life ! These are people who love animals.. Is loving an animal such a bad thing? I guess the bottom line is, it isn't YOUR property, the smell that you complain about IS NOT THERE, there may be droppings there, but if you hate the place so much, WHY ARE YOU THERE? If I don't like a a store or restaurant, I don't go there, so don't go to the park. There is plenty of distance between the park and the neighbors so stop your crying and do something productive with your time like join a support our troops program, or help the elderly, or maybe, GET A LIFE ! The park is a good thing and should be allowed, end of story. "

cassidy29 wrote on Feb 16, 2008 8:46 PM:

" You won't be laughing when people are back at the park and you have to pay court costs for an erroneous (that means error laden) lawsuit. I'm pretty sure people will be walking those trails nice and early tomorrow. "

foxresident wrote on Feb 16, 2008 8:41 PM:

" hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha "

kingston73 wrote on Feb 16, 2008 8:02 PM:

" wow, good comeback FoxRes, did you think of that all by yourself? I'm impressed, it's the first thing you've written that wasn't misspelled. Or have you finally overtaxed your brain with all the spelling? "

foxresident wrote on Feb 16, 2008 7:55 PM:

" hahahahahahahahahahahaha "

Barkley13 wrote on Feb 16, 2008 7:35 PM:

" The only losers are the ones who brought about this unneeded suit. I have been going to the park for the past 7 months and have NEVER seen a problem. EVERYBODY and EVRY DOG is very well behaved. The only one misbehaving is these moronic neighbors who apparently cannot type or spell. It takes a lot of nerve to hurl comments like dog owners have no life or we are lazy? Are you serious? Me and my wife are VERY active, thats the reason we bring our dog, he is stuck in the house too often. We would LOVE to have a dog park in our backyard; unfortunately there are only so many places to have them. I have never smelt foul things or seen dogs going to the bathroom all over the place. The REAL problem is some people are just too miserable and they dont want to see others have fun. These 30+ guys probably can't get a date so thats why they are miserable, the other people I dont have an excuse for, get a hobby or something. If you are videoing people or bringing about lawsuits because people are walking their dogs in the park YOU ARE A LOSER, Log on to INEEDALIFE.org or IHAVENOFRIENDS.gov maybe that can consume some more of your time, as opposed to bothering innocent people who want to have fun with their dog. If you have a problem with this let me know where you want to meet to discuss it. "

kingston73 wrote on Feb 16, 2008 6:43 PM:

" Oh foxres, you "musta" been the illiterate, uneducated dog hater from foxboro. Guess what, if the gate's locked for dog owners, its also locked for you guys. Way to go, make the town pay money for a needless lawsuit and force people to close a large tract (I'm sorry for using vocab you need to look up, I'll save you the time - "tract" means an expanse of land or water) of land to everybody. Hitler didn't want any foreigners in his Germany either, I'll bet you both would have gotten along just fine. "

cassidy29 wrote on Feb 16, 2008 6:41 PM:

" As long as the Con Com closed it, that's fine. That helps the dog park, not the abutters. Fox Res, by identifying Kingston, you are basically coping to the fact that you have yelled at him because you know his car. Wow. It's good that this thing has stayed up so everyone can see that you are owning up to threatening people. "

foxresident wrote on Feb 16, 2008 5:08 PM:

" oh kingston.u musta been the guy from the ocean state.keep your dog in ur own state.and cassidy.Take your bolt cutters down there and do that. "

cassidy29 wrote on Feb 16, 2008 4:42 PM:

" Good someone spell checked for you. Guilty party? Yup, that's you. I have bolt cutters. I'll take my dog to conservation town land and there's not much you can do about it. Except shoot your BB gun. I'm so scared. "

foxresident wrote on Feb 16, 2008 4:22 PM:

" I dont need to say any more.Take ur dogs down there now and try to get in.And look whos writing all the comments..A guilty party is always the loudest.Oh dont waste the trip down there..its locked. "

cassidy29 wrote on Feb 16, 2008 1:30 PM:

" FoxRes: Since not much of your last post was in the King's English, I'll answer you from what I got. But really, guy, you need to brush up on your learnin', you are embarassing me since we both live in the same town. I will feel free to comment on the Conlons since I know both of them, but more over, the owner of record (go to town hall) is Mrs. Conlon. You probably have never been to the dog park because you are most likely scared of dogs. I've been to the park a million times and the dog park smells like nature. Again, resorting to the waste issue is all that the abutters and their side kicks have to say. The land judge was mis-led by the plaintiff's lawyer, who told him that a child was bitten. What a bunch of liars! That child was a legal adult. Give us all a break. You claim to know nothing of videos, then where did you see them? I think anyone who is reading this knows where. Honestly, the abutters don't have a leg to stand on in court. The land was deeded to the Con Com, not generically to the Town of Foxboro. Keep posting. You have nothing but nonsense to say. I love it! "

kingston73 wrote on Feb 16, 2008 1:19 PM:

" Wow, FoxRes, you get less and less coherent the more you write. Maybe you need to give your brain a break for a little bit. As far as the smell goes, maybe you need to change your clothes. As for the video taping, well, I took my dog for a walk there today (ON LEASH) and somebody was watching me the entire time, with some type of electronic device held in front of them. Do I have proof its a video camera, well, no, but you yourself stated that "I hav witnessed several hours of video tape" so how can you then say you don't know anything about it? Also, yesterday somebody was in the parking lot writing down car plate numbers. Have all personal rights to freedom been dissolved in Foxboro? I feel a little like a jewish person must have felt in 1941 living in Germany. What's next, the SS and Gestapo recruiting the baseball team as jr. dog haters? As Judge Judy once said, if you tell the truth you don't need a good memory. Maybe you should listen to her. And, if you understood half as much as you read, you'd know that the judge hasn't "rulud" on anything yet, its a TEMPORARY injuction. Finally, as far as having a life, who has been watching "hours" of video tape and posting things in the middle of the night? I feel like you may just "

foxresident wrote on Feb 16, 2008 11:58 AM:

" Well well well looks whos resorting to the name calling now huh? Kingston73s a tough guy and casidy29 want to sound it as well.I dont know the conlons home situation but i wouldnt go criticizing it or putting it down unless u knew them.if you want to do that then ill bet that you casidy are single and dont have much of a life but you and your dog.am i correct? and kingston..is all u have is 1 instance of people yelling at you and ur little dog?because all of you gog people really dont have much of an argument but those two things.And as for the taping of people down there i dont know about any of that.I do know that there is a very strong odor of urine down there..but im sure all your houses smell like that so it doesnt bother you.If a judge rulud how he did then dont you think maybe the people of milton lane had a good case? "

cassidy29 wrote on Feb 16, 2008 9:28 AM:

" Oh and PS...Fox Res and Abutter: Speaking of getting lives, way to post after midnight. COWARDS. "

cassidy29 wrote on Feb 16, 2008 9:27 AM:

" ABUTTER (There is no second B, english major) If you live on South Street you aren't an abutter. Duh. To Foxres: Supporting the Conlons bad actions makes you just as bad as they are. Go to Town Hall and see the police reports. I'm a resident too and you all need to realize that the town doesn't pay for the dog park. The volunteers do. The Con Com owns the land. It's pretty sick that the Conlons are taping the dog park. Everyone knows. It's illegal to tape people without their consent. If I were on that tape, I would sue the Conlons so fast their heads would spin. They don't even own the house. They live with their parents, 30+ year old men. Time to grow up, boys. "

kingston73 wrote on Feb 16, 2008 8:46 AM:

" Foxbororesident, I don't know about you, but I show respect to people who prove they DESERVE respect, not people who shout obsenities off their back porch and don't seem to care a bit about swearing in front of children. I would LOVE to have this place behind my house, but your response illustrates perfectly what the issue really is with those couple of Milton lane people: they consider the park property an extension of their own, and want it back. If you want a house with acres of land, maybe you should go find one. And ABBUTTER: you keep saying "if there where no problems...", well, there weren't any problems until SOMEBODY(15 milton) started causing them. Like I said before, stop and think before you speak, and invest in a dictionary. Again, and I can't make this point loud enough, NOBODY who ever used the dogpark threatened anybody else with bodily harm or shouted obsenities at anybody. Who is the real nuisance and problem here??? "

foxresident wrote on Feb 16, 2008 3:57 AM:

" As a foxboro resident for almost 30 years now i must say this dog park issue and its supporters really have alot of issues.(yes u kingston73) like issues pertaining to ur little useless park lets get the facts before you run your mouth and act like a tough guy callin people like glen and chris morons.well whos the moron now? is it those 2?,or the selfish not my dog people?because i see in the papers today the park has finally been somewhat shutdown.All a dog park is a place for lazy people with no lives to go and let their useless dogs run around n make noise.And im sure 100% of the people who use the park wouldnt want it in their backyard.So before all of you people want to praise ppl like heather harding really look at what ur doing and realize ur dog is just a dog.And show some respect for the people of milton lane.Im writing this in support of the people of milton lane.all they want is their privacy just like the rest of you do.The conlons and the Bakers and the other residents of Milton lane dont deserve to be bashed like this.All they want is the same thing all of you would want if such a monument of someones stupidity was in your backyard. "

ABBUTTER wrote on Feb 16, 2008 1:49 AM:

" hey dastew613 u wanna compliment a 1 debbie cunniff...well im sure she or you for that matter wouldnt like a nasty dirty feces infested dog park located in your back yards.Its so comical how you guys think dogs come first in this world hahahaha.as a matter of a fact its sad in a way how you guys talk about your dogs as if they have rites.I have nothing to do with the people on milton lane but what they have had to deal with has been unfair as tax payers.Lets be real here...theyre dogs...dogs.You me first people all had a place to go b4 this dog park so im sure u can all go back to where u came from.And to make it as simple as i can..If there was no problems at ur lil "dog park"(get a life) then it wouldnt have been taken to court.Lets grow up people.dogs are not humand and i think its you guys god caesar milan who said dog parks are condusive and are for people who are lazy and dont want to take the the responsibility of looking after yheir dogs.DOODY CALLS!!!! "

WRZ wrote on Feb 15, 2008 11:52 PM:

" It's a shame there was no yahoo group in support of this park so you could discuss the problem and solutions easily online.

WRZ

ccdogpark@yahoo.com

http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/Dogpark-National-News/



"

Dastew613 wrote on Feb 15, 2008 9:06 PM:

" I am concerned that the abutters on Milton Lane might be missing a very big opportunity here. Seems like they are really thinking small here. A dog park hurting the quality of their lives? Oh my gosh, when will they advise their lawyer to file a suit to say that they can't stand the smell of camp fires on a Spring, Summer or Fall night from the local campground? I do not know these abutters nor do I choose to but I do know Debbie Cunniff and I know her to be a woman of great pride in her town. She has growm up here, decided her children would grow and prosper here and experience the love and pride of their hometown just as she has for many years. I also know that her children will be proud of their Mom's conduct, will your children say the same for you who have used vulgarity, been mean spirited in front of elders and young children? Shame on you! FOxboro used to be a place for family pride. Maybe Foxboro is not the place for you.Try Milton, Sudbury or even Wellsley. From the way you have conducted yourself so far you just might fit in there. "

Patsgal wrote on Feb 15, 2008 9:01 PM:

" It seems to us these "abutters" only care about themselves. There is a leash law in Foxboro so now we have a place we can take our pets and let them off leash and all these "abutter/complainers" want to do is nag, nag nag, until they get their way. These people DO NOT OWN this land, it is not an extension of their property so they really shouldn't have a say in how the land is used. These people also have the nerve to say, "if you don't have a back yard, don't get a dog". Pretty pathetic making that statement when they think this land is somehow an extension of their backyard. If that's so, then pay for the land and start paying taxes!!!

We're sick of hearing about the barking dog complaints. When my husband and I were there a few times, there was more noise coming from the screaming kids at the ball park than the dog park so if they're going to complain about barking dogs why aren't they complaining about screaming kids? There must be more worthy and important causes to focus your time and attention on than complainng about a dog park. As Foxboro residents, we are all for the dog park and we will offer our help in doing whatever we can to keep it open and hope that the many Foxboro residents that are park goers will do the same!! "

kingston73 wrote on Feb 15, 2008 8:36 PM:

" Um, settle down glen and chris....and maybe try using spell check before you post. I love how you "neighbors" keep trying to claim that the swearing, yelling, threats, and shooting never happened and its all just rumors. Are you so STUPID that you don't realize that dozens of people have witnessed 1st hand the obsenity yelling from the back porch? I personally was threatened by you ABBUTTER while I was walking my dog (on leash) and was also yelled at by you FROM YOUR OWN PORCH. You moron, the only reason the tax payers have anything to complain about is directly due to yourselves and your needless lawsuit. Until you decided to sue for your own private backyard, the town wasn't spending a dime. As far as the police go, they've been called about the bb shooting. As for jose21, well, you sound like a real classy kinda person, but have you ever heard the phrase "think before speaking?" "

cassidy29 wrote on Feb 15, 2008 8:15 PM:

" Hmm, I wonder who ABUTTER is. 15 Milton Lane I bet. "

dogparkfan wrote on Feb 15, 2008 7:06 PM:

" I guess we finally agree on something. I don't live in your world sir/madam. Because in my world I don't have "several" free hours to watch videos of dogs barking. I think it is time to get a hobby. Maybe owning a dog will help occupy your time. "

parkuser wrote on Feb 15, 2008 6:15 PM:

" Once again, the park users have to endure the harrassment of those that want to close it. Please, can't we post our points without name calling. I have been at the park, when an abutter had their stereo on so loud with the most profane vulgarity, also had someone swearing over the fence. Very sad...Most of us have yards that we use, but love the fact that there is more open space and water for dogs to swim. The land is for recreation and for all to use. I for one hope that we can settle this and that it can reopen for everyone's enjoyment. "

ABBUTTER wrote on Feb 15, 2008 6:11 PM:

" Once again you people with dogs only care about yourselves.You all fall under the "not my dog" line.I hav witnessed several hours of video tape of dogs barking and ive seen first hand dog feces on the ground around the barrells.living in this town for almost 30 years i dont appreciate goin to a public place to skate and having to walk through a pack of dogs having them jump up on me as i walk through there as their owners jus sit there drinking coffee and smoking.You people with dogs are in your own little world where u dont care about anyone but yourelves and your dogs.And if your so worried about people shooting your dogs back there i dont know if you know this or not but we do have a police department in this town.If your gonna sit here and say a judge is wrong for takin away your priveladges down there then you obviously have tunnel vision and really dont see the big picture.Everything isnt just about you people and ur dogs. "

dogparkfan wrote on Feb 15, 2008 5:48 PM:

" I think you are missing the point ABBUTTER. Your complaints of excessive barking went nowhere because the allegations were found to be untrue. That is why people, possibly you, have decided to make up fictitious claims of dog bites and unsanitary conditions to deliver your message. Maybe a BB whizzing by your head or a foul mouth directed at one of your family members doesn't bother you, but the people and children at the park those days feel differently. Whether you like the park or not, there are ways to voice one's opinion without resorting to those tactics. The park has made every attempt to accommodate the few complaining neighbors. Rules, hours of operation, wood chips, sanitary barrels, and locks have been implemented to help ease the burden on you. What efforts have you made? There are many taxpayers in the Town of Foxboro who enjoy that park. I think there are more pressing issues to worry about than a dog park open from 8am till 5pm. "

jose21 wrote on Feb 15, 2008 5:16 PM:

" deal with it freaks. if you don't have your own yard, then don't buy a dog. why should someone else have to listen to your stupid dog bark. "

ABBUTTER wrote on Feb 15, 2008 4:51 PM:

" Seeing as though all of these comments are from people who only care about themselves and their dogs i am commenting on sticking up for the tax payers in the town of Foxborough on Milton Lane.If all these people want to say that they follow the rules of the park well then thats just saying that the dogs dont bark...theyre lying!! If the rules were followed would the issue have gone to court? Im sure all the me first people who go down there all had someplace to go before the town allowed such a screw up to go on for as long as it did.And whats really comical is this paper posts a video of people down there commenting how badly they need the park for their dogs and all 3 of them are from out of town! So if u people want to keep bashing the neighbors on here dont accuse them of doing things like shooting guns,swearing or yelling.The rules are NOT followed..that is why what has happened did.Keep ur barking non supervised dogs in your own yard ani in your OWN town. "

dogparkfan wrote on Feb 15, 2008 3:37 PM:

" I would like to voice my displeasure over the recent closing of the Foxboro Dog Park. From the articles I have read in the newspaper, it appears that a few have made some accusations about the park that include inconsiderate park-goers, obnoxious pets and have even gone as far as calling it unsanitary. This is entirely false as I am there quite often. Over the last year I have been frequenting the dog park and have met some fantastic and friendly people who want nothing more than to show affection and compassion to their animals. Very rarely do I see people communicate with strangers like I see at the dog park. A simple hello often generates an hours worth of conversation over their animals. It is a great feeling to meet people who care about their animals as I do. If there is a legitimate complaint and disruption occurring within the park then I agree with those who wish to have it shut down. Unfortunately, with the lack of legitimate complaints, false allegations and lies are now being told to add substance to their argument. Lets be fair folks. If you want the park to be shut down at least approach the matter with the truth. And shame on the Town for investigating the park, when they have neighbors swearing and shooting BB guns at the park-goers with children present. Who is causing the real problem? "

july_7 wrote on Feb 15, 2008 12:58 PM:

" Wait until next week when school is out for February vacation and all the kids are hanging out there. Talk about noise. They can play their radios loudly, scream, yell, chase each other and trash the place. And since the locks are no longe being used, people can come and go there at all hours if they want. Hey, now even 2nd and 3rd shift worker can plan to meet up with friends for some after work socialization. But I guess that would be better for the complainers than having to deal with us dog lovers from 8-5. Enjoy you guys, because a bunch of teens and young kids make a heck of lot more noise than any of our dogs! "

DogLover wrote on Feb 15, 2008 12:14 PM:

" What a shame it has come to this. Anyone that has ever visited the Foxboro Dog Park at Cocassette Recreation Area on Mill St, knows what a wonderful place it is and just because a very few select people are demanding to have control over land they DO NOT OWN – it’s in jeopardy. The only real aggression that ever came from the park was from one abutter yelling absolute profanity into the park (where there were children) and shooting his BB gun towards the park (again, where there were children, adults & dogs).

What’s next, will these abutters sue town official and waste town money again when the children’s soccer games get a little louder than they would prefer? When does it stop? I commend the town & conservation committee for not backing down to the dog park haters and encourage them to continue the fight, as they have the majority of the town behind them.
"

lynnecullen wrote on Feb 15, 2008 8:34 AM:

" Closing the park is a shame. It was well run and supervised by everyone who used it. Many friendships were made. The people that used the park were very aware that they needed to keep their dogs quiet so as not to upset the neighbors. If an excited dog barked, it was pointed out to the owner. Everyone loved it and I never heard excessive barking nor did I ever see any unsanitary conditions. The worst thing I ever witnessed was a very disorderly neighbor shouting out obscenities.

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