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Attleboro city councilor revives paramedic debate




ATTLEBORO - A proposed ordinance that would require the mayor to hire only paramedics for the fire department is expected to face an amendment Tuesday.

City Councilor Walter Thibodeau said he plans to offer a change that would eliminate the "paramedic only" language and impose a hiring ratio of one paramedic for every two regular firefighters.

The hiring ratio would become effective after the expiration of the current civil service list and the issuance of a new one, he said.

He claimed the ratio would allow enough paramedics to be hired to staff the city's two advanced life support ambulances, but would not force the city to become "top heavy" with paramedics.

Bowles, the chief proponent of the current proposal, slammed Thibodeau's amendment. "It's a huge step backwards, from a public safety standpoint," he said.

Bowles said it would "obliterate" efforts to increase the number of paramedics to levels that would eventually ensure that a first responder to a medical emergency anywhere in the city would be a paramedic.

Public safety committee chairman George Ross will push for his own proposal, which is based on Bowles', he said.

Meanwhile, the Thibodeau plan could require another public hearing because it's different than the legislation under consideration.

Former city councilor Roxanne Houghton, who's pushing for more paramedics after a medical emergency at her home, also criticized the amendment.

It destroys the goal of improving public safety and opens the city to "nepotism," she said.

"It's irresponsible," she said. "It would stop the mayor in his tracks from hiring more paramedics. It's vague and would open the door for the hiring of relatives, which some city councilors have wanted from the beginning."

She was referring to Councilor Peter Blais, who argued that the sons and daughters of current firefighters should get preference in hiring, even if they are not paramedics.

 


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Harry Hindsight wrote on Apr 21, 2008 2:15 PM:

" The three being the police, fire and then paramedic ( rescue ) I assume. Being that the rescue charges for their service, could the thought be floated that these fees could be held within that department to support itself? Much like the police were able to secure the Land Rover for the DARE program and I assume that they sell other items that are siezed to generate revenue, why could these rescue calls be a true revenue source. The city charges extra for things we are already support through our property taxes such as trash, the animal shelter and the zoo. Why not have those that use the service pay the bulk of it's cost. Once again, this could be a non issue if the city went to a private ambulance service. "

realist wrote on Apr 21, 2008 9:46 AM:

" A separate service would not be the answer because then you run into the problem of adding a new administrative overhead problem. You would have three public safety groups fighting for money.

Paramedic training could offered in some colleges as an off-shoot of nurses' training. I also have a feeling that there may be some qualified Navy corpsmen or Army medics looking for work after their enlistments are up. "

Harry Hindsight wrote on Apr 21, 2008 9:27 AM:

" Realist, would a viable solution to this be to make a seperate service that only answers medical calls? Then those trained in fire / rescue and those in medical would be dispatched to where they are needed most. Being that there is a Mass. State Fire Acadamy in Webster I beleive, should there be a Mass State Paramedic's Acadamy established also? You can go to Providence College and BCC to get a degree in Fire Science, but what is the equivalent for the Paramedics? "

realist wrote on Apr 21, 2008 9:10 AM:

" Why is this even a discussion. Times change and city departments need to change too.

If, in twenty-five years, the city has an all paramedic department - what could be better? Check the stats, most fire department calls are medical emergencies or accidents. This is where advanced medical knowledge means the difference between life and death.

The days of grabbing a heart attack victim and tossing him or her into the back of a modified Cadillac are long over. A modern fire/rescue service should reflect this.


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Harry Hindsight wrote on Apr 21, 2008 7:46 AM:

" Having an all paramedic fire department is a wonderfull idea and would be a plus for the city. The issue I have is that if all members were paramedics, would their fire fighting and rescue practices be hindered by having to spend time on medical refresher classes and not the other two. I think there should be a pool of paramedics and a pool of firefighters. If this becomes too much of an issue, turn the ambulance service over to a private company to run, the people of Attleboro are being charged for ambulance service now by the city, why not contract it out and save the money in vehicle upkeep, salaries and health insurance. "


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