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No income taxes? No way, say rep hopefuls




ATTLEBORO - State representative candidates Kate Jackson, William Bowles and George Ross are in agreement on at least one issue: They all say Question 1 on the ballot is a bad idea.

The proposal asks voters to eliminate the state income tax.

Most state officials have lined up against the referendum question, but many have said they fear it will pass out of voter frustration and the weak economy.

Bowles and Jackson, both Democrats competing in the Sept. 16 primary election, said eliminating the income tax would wipe out 40 percent of the state's revenue and force drastic cuts to local aid.

"I'm definitely against Question 1, mostly because of what it would do to our economy," Jackson said. She said cutting local aid would result in the layoffs of teachers, firefighters and police.

Bowles said Question 1 is far too drastic.

He said even if the state laid off every employee, it would only save about $6 billion while Question 1 would eliminate $12 billion in revenue.

"It would drive a significant reduction in firefighters, police and teachers and it would drive a massive cut in services," he said.

Ross, who has no competition in the Republican primary, said he also opposes it.

He said he is for limited taxation, but Question 1 goes too far.

Instead of elimination the income tax, he said legislators should scrutinize the state budget more carefully and cut unnecessary spending.

Supporters of Question 1 said it will result in a $3,700 tax break for the average citizens, and that would result in a boom to the economy.

They said state government is loaded with wasteful spending that can be eliminated, instead of necessary services.

Bowles said if voters believe their taxes are being spent wastefully, they should vote those they consider to be responsible out of office. He also said eliminating the income tax would result in increases in more regressive taxes, like the sales tax and property tax.

Jackson said approval of Question 1 would cause turmoil that the state does not need.

"We have enough fiscal concerns right now that we're dealing with," she said.

Jackson said she is also concerned that a lot of voters do not seem to know much about Question 1 yet.

Ross said his experience on the city council who be helpful in scrutinizing the state budget because the city keeps spending tight.

Ross and Bowles are city councilors. Jackson is a former councilor.

The winner of the Jackson-Bowles primary will take on Ross in the general election. They are competing for an open seat because state Rep. John Lepper, R-Attleboro, is retiring.

 


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Spamalot01 wrote on Sep 8, 2008 5:47 PM:

" Based on income levels, Massachsuetts residents pay a state tax rate that is right about in the middle of the pack when compared to income levels and tax rates of the other 49 states plus D.C. There is no doubt as to considerable waste in the state budget, all to benefit local communities with special projects that make voters happy and keep local pols getting re-elected. Eliminating taxes is retrograde. Much better to finally vote out the incumbents who spend the current tax income. Just remember, though, that if you have the courage to vote to get rid of reps and senators who target funding to your communities, you are clearly saying that you do not want state funding to come to your area. That's the clear message every voter has to send. BTW, has anyone checked to see if there is any kind of protection for cities and towns where voters support this tax elimination? After all, what's to prevent legislators from retaliting against communities who vote to reduce the pet-project spending money by targeting spending rductions on those communities? "

eyebrowsraised wrote on Sep 8, 2008 5:16 PM:

" Question 1 will devistate our communities. Look at the states w/o income taxes, like NH and TX- then look at their property taxes. A 12k property tax bill is not unheard of in either place. Income taxes are progressive, the more you earn the more you pay. Property taxes, which would be all that remain, are inconsistent and they fluctuate. The problem is that we need more income tax revenue to come back to cities and towns. Effectively, the income tax is about 3% (when you realize that it lowers what you in Federal Income Tax). The state could never make up for the 40% decline in revenues questions 1 would cause, but the property tax and sales tax increases that would follow would hurt everyone even more. We would also missout on the revenue gained from those people who communte from NH, RI and ME- take our jobs and would then not contribute at all to our tax burden! Question 1 will do much more damage then you can even begin to imagine! Go to http://votenoquestion1.com/ for more information. "

hope2008 wrote on Sep 8, 2008 3:03 PM:

" On Ms. Jackson's web page she states that she is an "agent of change". This is already a dishonest statement. In all her years on the city council, she was the most conservative - old school- no new idea official that was there. She voted for ONE CHANGE and that change resulted in a promotion for her husband. - all public record. On her website - where is her list of accomplishments? There were absolutely NONE. - public record. She voted against anything that represented a progressive thought. While debating anything complicated - she showed very little understanding and had very little input. - all public record. Ms. Jackson is no agent of change and has already misrepresented herself to her would-be constituents. A doubter? Go to city hall and ask to see ONE piece of legislation - progressive or otherwise - that was introduced by Ms. Jackson. - all public record. "

skeptic wrote on Sep 8, 2008 10:51 AM:

" Where's the pro-tax crowd? "

doug wrote on Sep 8, 2008 10:16 AM:

" I haven't seen a candidate I would say is qualified to do much of anything...regardless of what they say.
Had the misfortune to be approached by one of them who asked what I thought of the ARA situation. I said it's a real problem being that we have to repay $93,000 back to HUD becuase Milanoski used it to pay loan interest which is against HUD rules. The response from this person seeking to be our state rep. was..."If that news gets out there is going to be he-- to pay". I said what do you mean "gets out," it's been in the paper at least three times that I can recall. This person could be our state rep.?? May the spirits help us!!!
Frankly, I wish we could elect three to state rep....at least Attleboro would be better off...I think! "

doug wrote on Sep 8, 2008 10:05 AM:

" Why do they always say local aid and/or services will be effected if taxes are cut...or in this case elliminated? These people are so tranfixed with taxpayer hand outs that they cannot fathom cuts in local and state employees. I say have a layoff and put the surviving employee force to honest work. The waste due to poor efficiencies and very poor management has got to be astronomical! "

realist wrote on Sep 8, 2008 8:55 AM:

" Frustration is right. Granted, what I am about to say is not a result of a survey but reflective of what I hear.

People are tired of watching the pols get huge raises and putting family and friends in state jobs. Frustrated at being told the gas tax will have to go up because taxes passed several years back did not go to fund infrastructure improvements. They're tired of state employees and people on state-aid protesting for more money while they dare not ask for a raise because of their employer's financial position.

I have to admit as a realist (get it?) I thought that such a dramatic move would cripple the state but now I realize that this is the only way to get the legislature's attention.

Vote against the incumbants in your district. Think if they have done anything to improve the Commonwealth since being in office.
By "improve" I don't mean they brought pork into the district for a project that probably was done by a firm from out of the area. Nor do I mean showing up at a banquet (they did not pay for) to present a piece of paper from the proclamation mill that has become so common they're meaningless.
The bright spot for those at the state trough is the legislature's habit of ignoring the people. So those of you in your cushy jobs don't worry the will of the voters will be ignored. "

STACEYMAY wrote on Sep 8, 2008 8:50 AM:

" No surprises here, what did you expect from our spend, spend, spend leaders. Sure they will threathen to cut all of our services. I remeber when proposition 2-1/2 came in most of our city officals left office, not because of 2-1/2 but because they couldn't play games with the money anymore.These candidates should promise to live within our means, vote to allow casino gambling,vote for us not along party lines. We have had Betty and John voting together all along and not for us but for their party. This has got to change or we will take care of ourselves, hence this vote to do away with this tax. It's about change and should all agree it's long over due. "


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