Thank you for putting spotlight on issue
Wednesday, September 10, 2008 2:39 AM EDT
ALTo the editor:
I want to thank The Sun Chronicle, Editor Mike Kirby and your talented interns, especially Tiffany Stanley, for a fine piece of journalism in the series on GLBT rights. It is timely and necessary, even if some people don’t want to hear about the way the culture, even here in Attleboro and even North Attleboro, is changing.
Newspapers make us think. Thanks for trusting your readers and challenging readers to think and reflect on the unnecessary suffering and difficulties placed on GLBT.
Gretchen Robinson
Attleboro
Put hatred aside
and let God judge
ALTo the editor:
Who said dinosaurs are extinct? I found one when I finally read Thursday’s Sun Chronicle. The paper is not promoting homosexuality. They are reporting on a segment of our population who are also created by God. Let he and he alone judge. There is entirely too much hate in this world.
Sally B. Holm
Mansfield
Homosexuals seek only equal rights
To the editor:
Mike Kirby was able to shock me two weeks in a row. Last week it was the fact that he had to explain the three-part story on gay issues.
This week it was the fact that more people than not seem to be upset by the paper being sympathetic to the “homosexual agenda.”
I’m still unable to comprehend the fact that people came to the Sun Chronicles offices, Bibles in hand, to cancel their paper subscriptions.
I’m gay and I’m not quite sure what the “homosexual agenda” is. All that GLBT people want is to be treated equally. We want our future, and the future of our families to be the same as everyone else’s.
My partner and I are friends with a couple who are married lesbians. They have four children between them. Both work full time, yet need state insurance. The mother with the children under 18 gets insurance, for herself and the kids. Her wife, on the other hand, has to file as an individual. I’m sure some of you are thinking “Well, that serves them right. They shouldn’t have kids anyway.” Well, let me tell you something, both of these women work hard. They give of themselves to their community. Yet, the only problem is that they don’t get the same rights as heterosexual couples because one of them isn’t a man.
Whether you like it or not, GLBT people are here to stay. No matter how many of you tell us we can’t get married, we can’t raise children, we aren’t the same as you, and we’ll still be here. We just want the same local, state and federal rights as you.
Do all of you understand how easy it is to put people who are different than you into derogatory categories? It is up to individuals to define themselves, not you. The future depends on the very fact that we accept one another despite our differences.
David M. Slaga
Norton
He leaves us guessing
about alternative view
ALTo the editor:
The letter from Dave Silvia (“Opposing viewpoint absent from gay series,” Sept. 5) raises several interesting but disturbing points.
Taking exception to the series, which outlined the problems facing young gay people, Mr. Silvia seems to be troubled by homosexual advocates who “seek to legitimize and promote their viewpoint by means of the laws of the commonwealth, which represent the values of our society.”
He also finds fault with The Sun Chronicle, which he says “is consistently promoting the gay agenda.” He implies that education institutions are biased in favor of gay people and takes to task the authors of the series for not reporting an alternative point of view.
Mr. Silvia leaves us guessing as to how he prefers that schools should treat gay people and just what alternative point of view he wishes was reported. We can only assume from the tenor of his letter that he prefers a state that would deny marriage and legal rights to persons that are not heterosexual.
In case Mr. Silvia missed it, the Massachusetts state Supreme Court has already ruled that gay marriage is legal, and he and others offended by that decision are certainly free to work to overturn it.
The tone of his letter, however, implies that Mr. Silvia is frustrated by the mere existence of people who do not share his biological instincts, and that is far more concerning than any opposition he and other closed-minded persons might have to gay marriage.
Further, his equating of the granting of legal rights to gays with the potential legalization of polygamy, making 9 the legal age of a girl to marry and stoning to death adulterers is beyond absurd.
It may not happen in the near future, but eventually every state in the country will extend to gays — young and old — the legal rights that Massachusetts has. Mr. Silvia and others who share his narrow view can do little to deny others the legal rights that they themselves currently enjoy.
Larry Houser
Norton
Straight talk, substance
are just what US needs
To the editor:
Bill Darcey of Foxboro made a few comments about Sarah Palin that need a wee bit of clarification. Gov. Palin did attempt to get her former brother-in-law removed from the Alaska state troopers, that is true. What Mr. Darcey failed to mention was that the trooper in question used his police taser on his 10-year-old step-son and made threats against Gov. Palin’s parents during her sister’s divorce. Not really conduct one expects from a state trooper.
I have no problem with people criticizing Gov. Palin, but let’s be sure we do not mislead by ommission and if you want to read up on scandals, be sure to check Joe Biden’s past.
I did a little research on this woman after being wowed by her speech.
She brings more leadership experience to the job of vice president than Barack Obama and Joe Biden combined. Her approval ratings are over 80 percent in Alaska, a number almost unheard of for politicians. She has a record of taking on Democrats, Republicans and oil companies in her state and shaking up the status quo.
Gov. Palin has a son and nephew off to combat on the 11th of September. True leadership starts with understanding what you expect others to do and what they may lose. She is no armchair warrior.
While one speech does not make a candidate, her political track record and life experience speak volumes.
I think she is just what Washington needs, change, straight talk and real substance.
Gary Johnson
North Attleboro
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vladimir1 wrote on Sep 10, 2008 10:52 PM:
vladimir1 wrote on Sep 10, 2008 10:36 PM:
Average price of a gallon of regular gas in Alaska today? $4.40 "
Anna DeMarinis wrote on Sep 10, 2008 9:04 PM:
Anna DeMarinis wrote on Sep 10, 2008 8:49 PM:
vladimir1 wrote on Sep 10, 2008 8:48 PM:
SoxFan: I'll spare you the Jack Kennedy response to "what does your ticket do for you."
"I want the efforts for clean energy pursued (Obamas idea. Paying for it needs to be worked out). I want spending cut(typically a republican idea). I want stronger schools but believe that no child left behind is flawed." - Really SOX? You sound just like me, a fellow democrat! I wanna kiss you.
I also want my gov't to temper the free market, to regulate Mac and Mae before they cause this crisis, to manage a healthcare system for all of us, manage Katrinas,etc. I want my taxes used wisely and I don't want them replaced by fees. I want a tax plan that levels the playing field, mutes the intrinsic power of wealth when it threatens the livelyhood of the average american.
I think the idea of American gov't is good, which puts me out of touch by 28 years. I want that gov't to defend freedom of thought, religion, sex, race, not engage in culture wars and play these groups against each other. And I don't care how small gov't has to be to do that! "
mattryan5150 wrote on Sep 10, 2008 7:58 PM:
celt wrote on Sep 10, 2008 7:12 PM:
SoxFan wrote on Sep 10, 2008 6:19 PM:
Later in your post you refer to "your God". I admit I am coming to this discussion from a Catholic perspective so forgive my ignorance. What God are you aware of, that I am not, that supports abortion?
If you do in fact have a God that you believe in (and I have no reason to believe otherwise), then why would you be so opposed to a politician who believed? "
Anna DeMarinis wrote on Sep 10, 2008 5:57 PM:
celt wrote on Sep 10, 2008 5:28 PM:
If you like your delusions and deceptions, read Ms. DeMarinis. "
saywhat wrote on Sep 10, 2008 5:13 PM:
ANCHORAGE, Alaska (AP) Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin told ministry students at her former church that the United States sent troops to fight in the Iraq war on a "task that is from God."
In an address last June, the Republican vice presidential candidate also urged ministry students to pray for a plan to build a $30 billion natural gas pipeline in the state, calling it "God's will."
Palin asked the students to pray for the troops in Iraq, and noted that her eldest son, Track, was expected to be deployed there.
"Our national leaders are sending them out on a task that is from God," she said. "That's what we have to make sure that we're praying for, that there is a plan and that plan is God's plan." "
SoxFan wrote on Sep 10, 2008 4:35 PM:
I raise all these points to illustrate to you that the separation of Church and State was never intended to have government be totally devoid of an elected official's beliefs, it was intended to avoid the suppression that the founders had just left behind in England. Presidents on both sides of the aisle have for years consulted with religious leaders.
I understand that you and I have different points of view in this regard but do not try to hide your position by softening your position. Noboy is "anti-pro-choice" as you write. People are either Pro-life or Pro-murder. Color it anyway you want but don't lie to yourself. "
Anna DeMarinis wrote on Sep 10, 2008 4:27 PM:
Anna DeMarinis wrote on Sep 10, 2008 4:23 PM:
Anna DeMarinis wrote on Sep 10, 2008 4:21 PM:
celt wrote on Sep 10, 2008 4:05 PM:
celt wrote on Sep 10, 2008 4:03 PM:
Anna DeMarinis wrote on Sep 10, 2008 3:36 PM:
mattryan5150 wrote on Sep 10, 2008 3:08 PM:
"her feeling that our involvement in Iraq is "god's will": she didn't say that
"her anti-pro-choice stance": It's called "pro-life," and it has to do with killing an innocent being
"She belonged to a far-right Christian church that had some way-out-there beliefs": and she left the Assembly of God church in 2002 because she was uncomfortable with it. "
saywhat wrote on Sep 10, 2008 2:56 PM:
Anna DeMarinis wrote on Sep 10, 2008 11:42 AM:
Anna DeMarinis wrote on Sep 10, 2008 11:40 AM:
Anna DeMarinis wrote on Sep 10, 2008 11:40 AM:
mattryan5150 wrote on Sep 10, 2008 11:11 AM:
Regarding the choice of Palin, I must admit that I like her politics, but I wish she were more experienced. But again, she has more experience than Obama, and she only hopes to be VP. "
celt wrote on Sep 10, 2008 10:57 AM:
mattryan5150 wrote on Sep 10, 2008 10:35 AM:
celt wrote on Sep 10, 2008 10:25 AM:
Regarding the "town-hall" meeting, there is always push and pull about which candidate is going to set the venue. Obama has always be available to answer questions.
You are admitting that Palin is not read for prime time. If she is not ready for a reporter, she sure as heck isn't ready to deal with Putin! "
SoxFan wrote on Sep 10, 2008 10:09 AM:
Am I open minded? I like to think so. I want the efforts for clean energy pursued (Obamas idea. Paying for it needs to be worked out). I want spending cut(typically a republican idea). I want stronger schools but believe that no child left behind is flawed.
In short, I want a hybrid of the platforms. Think what you like about me but you still have not supported your candidates only attacked the opposition. "
mattryan5150 wrote on Sep 10, 2008 10:03 AM:
Were you bothered when Obama refused several invitations to participate in "town-hall" meetings with John McCain this summer? "
celt wrote on Sep 10, 2008 9:56 AM:
vladimir1 wrote on Sep 10, 2008 9:54 AM:
mattryan5150 wrote on Sep 10, 2008 9:37 AM:
celt: Palin is doing interviews this week. She just joined this race and needed time to prepare. Is that unreasonable? Look how long it took Obama to come on Fox News. "
celt wrote on Sep 10, 2008 9:29 AM:
vladimir1 wrote on Sep 10, 2008 9:25 AM:
THINK? You ought to try it sometime. I THINK my analysis of of Palin is thoughtful and accurate. We all know people like her. Its about the power. But since you guys have believed everything from this current white house to date, why stop now.
Matty: pajamasmedia? really - that's (in)credible. "
mattryan5150 wrote on Sep 10, 2008 9:23 AM:
mattryan5150 wrote on Sep 10, 2008 9:16 AM:
http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/separating-palin-fact-from-palin-fiction/ "
SoxFan wrote on Sep 10, 2008 9:08 AM:
I applaud Mr. Johnson's letter because he takes a defendable position in support of his candidate and does not simply bash the opponent.
I applaud Mattyryan for supporting his point with a neutural website and not an underground conservative site.
When you get information from a website, check its owner at www.whois.com so that you are not simply regurgitating the party's spiel.
In short, THINK!
I like the give and take here but I want to see why people support who they do! "
mattryan5150 wrote on Sep 10, 2008 9:02 AM:
vladimir1 wrote on Sep 10, 2008 8:56 AM:
Mr. Johnson, it is hard to assess Palin's track record and life experience as she remains deafeningly silent to questions on the matter.
Troopergate isn't about the crimes and misdemeanors of Palin's brother-in-law; that is a police matter. It's purpose is to investigate Palin's use or abuse of executive power, private vendetta above the rule of law, and the cover-up of this abuse. Before nomination she said she welcomed the investigation, now she may have to be subpeonaed whilr the RNC and Alaska rebublicans do their best to derail any investigation.
Alaska has no income, sales or property tax. Its 2 main sources of income are from taxes and royalties from oil companies and federal earmark money.
Palin is skilled at gaming this system, playing big oil against earmarks to acquire power and celebrity. Mayor Palin fired her political enemies, hired a lobbyist from Sen. Stevens office to raise $27 million in federal earmarks for a town of 7000 people. How big is the budget for North Attleboro? "
socal1 wrote on Sep 10, 2008 7:58 AM:
mattryan5150 wrote on Sep 10, 2008 6:59 AM:
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/afl-cio_falsely_attacks_mccain.html
AFL-CIO Falsely Attacks McCain
It runs an ad claiming McCain voted "against increasing health care benefits for veterans," when he actually voted repeatedly to increase them.
Summary
The AFL-CIO is attacking McCain with a TV spot saying he voted "against increasing health care benefits for veterans." Actually, he voted for increases in those benefits.
The labor federation points to McCain's votes against Democratic proposals to increase funding. Those were defeated along party lines and were accompanied by alternative measures to increase benefits by smaller amounts, all of which passed unanimously or with near-unanimous majorities. McCain supported all of them. "