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Finally, stimulus funds put to practical use




While I think everyone is pleased that the Governor has restored funding to allow North Attleboro to rehire firefighters, I can't help but think they never should have been laid off in the first place. These folks work too hard and have far too dangerous a job to be used as political chess pieces.

Governor Patrick is providing stimulus money from the Obama Gravy Train. It's the first instance I have heard that the "Stimulus" money for something that actually creates jobs; $75 million dollars from this fund went to re-building five border crossing shacks with Canada. These crossings, which already had fairly decent facilities, have an average of two cars per day each.

Returning this money to the taxpayers while trying to get political capital out of its distribution is analogous to a bank robber stealing a million dollars, then returning one or two dollars. Its not an even exchange, and had we employed a few less hacks in this state with do-nothing six figure jobs, we would never have had to layoff any teachers or firefighters to begin with. Instead, we save jobs that never should have been lost.

There were more than enough projects, such as roofs for schools, elderly complexes and other government buildings that would have put people to work right away, but instead we spend money on projects that are years away. The state stole money from cities and towns, then showed up to save the day with money borrowed from my grandchildren. Just type in "stimulus waste" to any Internet search engine for an eye opening look.

The White House can claim millions of jobs "saved" all they want. (No economist has shown a formula or statistics on how they come up with these pretend numbers). The fact of the matter is that the unemployment rate is rising, the stimulus is being spent on pork and not a lot of jobs are being created. Someone needs to tell Mr. Obama that his Presidency is sinking fast.

Gary Johnson, North Attleboro

Picture future where elders are put to death

To the editor:

Breitbart News has recently uncovered a truly shocking video, now posted on Youtube, and can be found by searching, "Robert Reich: What An Honest President Would Say About Health Reform." The audio is of Robert Reich speaking at UCLA Berkeley on Sept. 26, when he was an advisor to presidential candidate Barack Obama. Reich, while addressing the subject of health care reform, said, "We're going to have to; if you're very old... we're going to let you die."

I did not take his words out of context. The context of his remarks were stated by himself within the first 35 seconds of the video, where he says that no one is willing to speak the truth about health care reform.

Robert Reich, advisor to candidate Barak Obama at the time he gave this speech, told his listeners at UCLA Berkeley, on September 26, 2007, that no candidate is willing to speak the truth about health care reform, but that health care is, "too expensive," and that the solution was to let the very old die.

The liberal Democrat health care reform being discussed in the U.S. Senate right now claims to cut Medicare expenditures by $500 billion. Just where do you suppose liberal Senate Democrats expect to cut $500 billion from Medicare? If you guessed, "By cutting health care to the very old and letting them die," you are correct!

Now is the very time to inundate our two U.S. Senators, John Kerry and Paul Kirk, with faxes, phone calls, letters and emails to oppose the current Senate Democrat health care reform effort and try to save the lives of our elderly from the liberal Democrat "health care reform" proposal.

Harold F. Crowell North Attleboro

She's well qualified to

serve on Attleboro council

To the editor:

It is my pleasure to write this letter endorsing Cherie Felos, candidate for Ward 1 city councilor.

I have known Cherie for close to 10 years. Cherie and I served on a city board together that I chaired and she vice-chaired. Only because of her support and enthusiasm I was allowed to do this. She has played an active role in politics and worked on numerous campaigns since I have known her. Besides being politically savvy and wise to the ways of the world, she recently obtained her law degree. Going to law school is tough enough, but doing it as a mother of five is a testament to her ability to overcome and achieve.

It is with that same drive and determination that I know she will represent Ward 1. She is energetic, caring, and compassionate. Ward 1 would be lucky to have Cherie Felos as their representative on the municipal council.

Please vote Cherie Felos for Ward 1 city councilor on Nov. 3.

Mark DesLauriers

Attleboro

He's shown devotion

to solving problems

To the editor:

My son Joe Lazzerini is running for Ward 1 city council and I ask you to support him. My son had to earn my vote just like he is going to earn yours on Nov. 3.

My son has always been an active member of the community. When he was 10 he went out to raise money after seeing an animal control officer on TV talking about the shelter and its needs. He raised a little over $100. Two years later he started a non-profit organization to raise money for cancer research and got his friends involved in the community.

My son has always cared about the environment and that's why he has organized community cleanups in South Attleboro. Joe also received the 2006 Community Excellence Award for his work with people with disabilities through the Arc of Northern Bristol County.

When he told me he wanted to run for city council, like any parent would, I asked him why and we talked in detail about all of his community service efforts to date and what he would like to accomplish for our community. My son knows what real public service is and he has always been a strong and engaged listener; as a councilor I know we can count on him to listen to the taxpayers. I am proud of my son and I am asking you to vote for Joe because I know that he will bring the same level of dedication and passion to the city council that he has committed to all of his endeavors to date. Go for Joe Tuesday, Nov. 3.

Natalie Emerson

South Attleboro

Put this hard worker

on Attleboro council

To the editor:

My son Joe Lazzerini is a candidate for Ward 1 councilor and he is also in the Army Reserves. He has committed himself to running for office because he believes in public service and has a passion for working hard for our community. Joe has always been committed to service and the Army Reserves have strengthened his commitment.

The Reserves have strengthened his leadership skills and his ability to build consensus in order to reach shared goals. It has also taught him about listening and attention to detail. I know that if we elect Joe on Nov. 3, Ward 1 will have a city councilor who has already benefited greatly by serving our community and country. Joe is a listener; he's an effective communicator and he works hard to really dig into issues and gain a complete understanding of complicated problems.

The campaign he's run has been typical Joe - you've probably met him as he's energetically gone door to door asking for votes and listening to the concerns of his neighbors or seen him doing a visibility or attending city council meetings.

He's a hard worker and I have no doubt that he'll work just as hard on the council as he has on the campaign trail. Joe has proven to me he is up for the job and on Tuesday, Nov. 3, I hope you will join me and cast your ballot for Ward 1 city councilor for Joe Lazzerini.

Kevin Emerson

South Attleboro

She'll champion needs

of Attleboro students

To the editor:

This is a letter in support of Jackie Romaniecki for the Attleboro School Committee.

Jackie and I have been colleagues and friends for almost 30 years. I know how dedicated she is to supporting and enhancing education in her community.

Jackie is a problem solver. She has spent countless hours researching educational issues with the aim of improving teaching and learning.

She stays current on important legislative issues, particularly those concerning education. One thing that has always impressed me is her belief in educational opportunities for all students - those who are especially talented, the mainstream (average) students, and those who are physically or mentally handicapped.

Although she may on the surface appear quiet or reserved, I can attest to the fact that when it comes to children, she is a staunch supporter of their rights to the best education that can be provided.

In this difficult economic climate, I know that Jackie will fight for what is educationally and economically possible for the Attleboro community, and I am proud of her past accomplishments and endeavors on behalf of all students.

Carolyn Smith

Norton

He's got qualities

that Attleboro needs

To the editor:

I am writing in support of Richard Conti for city councilor at large. Rick brings a wealth of experience in city government and local civic organizations, but I have always been most impressed with his true passion for serving this community.

More importantly, Rick delivers results. Recently my husband and I were fortunate to work with Rick and the Attleboro Rotary Club on the club's yearly charity auction. Rick played a major role in leading the effort to transform the auction by creating an online bidding format. The auction was hugely successful and the beautiful new playground at Nickerson Field is a direct outcome of this project. This is just one example of the many ways I have seen Rick make valuable contributions to improve our community.

I am confident that Rick's unique combination of experience, leadership, creativity and dedication to this city will serve us well. Please join me in voting for Rick Conti on Nov. 3.

Leda Notchey

Attleboro

Fresh perspective would be

welcome on Attleboro council

To the editor:

Joseph Lazzerini is a candidate for Ward 1 city councilor and I think he deserves a chance to serve the community in that role.

Joseph has been active serving the community with the best interest of its citizens at heart.

Although Joseph is a young man, he is old enough to vote and to serve his country in the Army Reserves and should be given an opportunity to sit on the city council. He has a fresh, young perspective that will bring new ideas to the council and should be given a place and a voice.

I am giving Joseph a vote, join me.

Irene Davey

South Attleboro

Picture future where

elders are put to death

To the editor:

Breitbart News has uncovered a shocking video, now posted on Youtube, that can be found by searching, "Robert Reich: What An Honest President Would Say About Health Reform." The audio is of Robert Reich speaking at UCLA Berkeley on Sept. 26, 2007, when he was an advisor to presidential candidate Barack Obama. Reich, while addressing the subject of health care reform, said, "We're going to have to; if you're very old we're going to let you die." I did not take his words out of context. The context of his remarks were stated by himself within the first 35 seconds of the video.

Reich told his listeners that no candidate is willing to speak the truth about health care reform, but that health care is, "too expensive," and that the solution was to let the very old die.

The liberal Democrat health care reform being discussed in the U.S. Senate right now claims to cut Medicare expenditures by $500 billion. Just where do you suppose liberal Senate Democrats expect to cut $500 billion from Medicare? If you guessed, "By cutting health care to the very old and letting them die," you are correct!

Now is the very time to inundate our two U.S. Senators, John Kerry and Paul Kirk, with faxes, phone calls, letters and e-mails to oppose the Senate Democrat health care reform effort and try to save the lives of our elderly from the liberal Democrat "health care reform" proposal.

Harold F. Crowell

North Attleboro

Finally, stimulus funds

put to a practical use

To the editor:

While I think everyone is pleased that the governor has restored funding to allow North Attleboro to rehire firefighters, I can't help but think they never should have been laid off in the first place. These folks work too hard and have far too dangerous a job to be used as political chess pieces.

Governor Patrick is providing stimulus money from the Obama Gravy Train. It's the first instance I have heard that the stimulus money for something that actually creates jobs; $75 million dollars from this fund went to re-building five border crossing shacks with Canada. These crossings, which already had fairly decent facilities, have an average of two cars per day each.

Returning this money to the taxpayers while trying to get political capital out of its distribution is analogous to a bank robber stealing a million dollars, then returning one or two dollars.

It's not an even exchange, and had we employed a few less hacks in this state with do-nothing six figure jobs, we would never have had to lay off any teachers or firefighters to begin with. Instead, we save jobs that never should have been lost.

There were more than enough projects, such as roofs for schools, elderly complexes and other government buildings that would have put people to work right away, but instead we spend money on projects that are years away.

The state stole money from cities and towns, then showed up to save the day with money borrowed from my grandchildren. Just type in "stimulus waste" to any Internet search engine for an eye-opening look.

The White House can claim millions of jobs "saved" all they want. (No economist has shown a formula or statistics on how they come up with these pretend numbers). The fact of the matter is that the unemployment rate is rising, the stimulus is being spent on pork and not a lot of jobs are being created.

Someone needs to tell Mr. Obama that his presidency is sinking fast.

Gary Johnson

North Attleboro

Protect personal choice

in all matters of prayer

To the editor:

I think it is high time for Rep. Betty Poirier to sit back and mindfully, meticulously peruse the part of our Constitution and Bill of Rights which clearly and concisely delineates the necessarily legal separation of church and state. No person or organization ever has or ever will have the "right" to force anyone to utter any type of prayer, including one which is a part of any particular religion, in any way, anywhere, at any time.

At a church service, before meals, or on certain other occasions, people may freely choose to pray, or refrain from doing so, if they wish. A strictly voluntary moment of silence, of course, is a sensible, fair, acceptable alternative.

However, children, parents, and school officials including teachers, not any elected or appointed legislative body, are the only ones who should make this decision. Ms. Poirier would never, I firmly believe, stand idly by and allow anyone to pass a mandate abridging or eliminating any of her cherished and hard-won basic, inalienable rights and freedoms. Therefore, she should immediately abandon her ill-conceived attempt to do this to anyone else. Equal rights, practiced equally for and by all, means just what it says, Ms. Poirier.

David Daugman

Attleboro

Be way of politicians

who have 'green view'

To the editor:

I wish folks would get their facts straight about "global climate change." They used to call it global warming. Then, after almost a decade of flat or dropping global temerature, the name was changed to global climate change. Yet they still want to stop what they falsely claimed caused global warming - the use of any fossil fuel.

It is clearly evident that our earth has gone through many cycles of cooling and heating over its lifetime. We are in one of those cycles, which data seems to indicate is going from a heating cycle towards a cooling one. As a young adult in the late sixties, early seventies, I distinctly remember stories of the coming Ice Age. Then, more recently, we saw stories of how the deserts would take over America. I'm sure, based on current conditions, the return of the Ice Age stories is not too far off.

If you want to do something that will help America, look into the so-called "green views" of your potential representatives and bear in mind that if those who thing green get their way, the world will indeed change. But that change may not be as positive a change as they would have you believe.

Joseph Chabot

North Attleboro

Young will be paying

for elders' health care

To the editor:

I am one of those "elitists" who doesn't want a government take over of health-care, and for a number of reasons.

A former secretary of health and human service, administrator for the EPA and former governor of Utah have said in a published report that changes to the health-care bill being considered in Congress have flown under the radar. Changes that equate to income redistribution. The costs of health care will shift from the older, sicklier, higher income folks to the younger, healthier and lower income workers if these components pass Congressional muster.

"Guaranteed issue" means that insurance companies must sell you a policy regardless of any pre-existing health conditions you might have. Simply put, this changes "insurance" to "welfare." Let's call it what it is.

"Community Rating" would limit insurance companies' ability to charge higher rates for higher risk customers.

These two components would be relatively innocuous if healthy young people could simply choose not to purchase health insurance until they were older and more at risk for health problems. But, no.

"Individual Mandate" would require that all workers buy health insurance.

Who wins? Older folks with higher incomes more at risk for health issues who will have their higher costs subsidized by younger healthier folks who are poorer.

Who loses? Everyone else. And when you throw in "the government option" you add a "health- insurer" who can operate perpetually in the red because it can reach into your pocket to make payments. What private business will even want to compete with that , much less be able to?

There are better ideas out there for health care reform, it's just that the proponents of Obama-care don't want free-market solutions that will wrest control of your life from the government.

Henry V. Soldat

Norton

Give fellow soldier your vote in city

I have had the opportunity to work with Joe Lazzerini in the Army as a fellow soldier. I learned quickly that Joe is a hard worker, and once he commits to something he is in it for the long haul.

Joe learns quickly and has common sense. He is going to work hard as a city councilor for Attleboro's veterans and soldiers who are overseas, and I know that he will represent us in a smart and responsible way.

Joe is knowledgeable about so many issues facing the Attleboro community, and has researched those issues thoroughly. One thing I look for when I vote is a candidate's military service, and Joe has that. He is committed to our country and he is committed to Attleboro. I am asking you to vote for a fellow soldier and a friend, Private Joe Lazzerini, on Nov. 3.

Zachary Gleiter

THIS WRITER is an Army private first class stationed at Fort Sam Houston.

 


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wxman wrote on Oct 27, 2009 11:05 AM:

" as I said, I was not familiar with the website VB posted..

I believe this is what I thought it was
http://www.rmets.org/ "

wxman wrote on Oct 27, 2009 10:31 AM:

" SP.. we're all still waiting for a few specifics of what qualifies you more than the next person? What are your degrees in? From where? Are you a member of any professional society?

as for the quality of whom to believe, we each have to determine who has the quals. Should I believe Greenpeace, whose members can be anyone off the street, or should I believe the AMS, whose members must be degreed? "

s-plumb wrote on Oct 27, 2009 10:13 AM:

" Everything supplied by wax are abstracts only. No data is available unless you purchase each individual paper. None of the abstracts, address climate change.
Based upon many years in research, I understand how limited the focus is in any research paper. A paper would never contain an absolute conclusion on something as broad as this subject. Wax is certainly welcome to his opinion, but thats all it is. Its no more valuable than gores, yours, or mine. I am honestly surprised that anyone with a background in any science would not be skeptical of the talking points presented on the UK propaganda site.
They cite no studies in support of man-made climate change.
As for data that I may have studiedI only need to point to Algores movie, which has as many, if not more data, precluding man as a source of climate change, as the populist view of anti-industry groups.
The problem I have is the total control we may be giving up to foreign countries in Dec. based upon junk science. "

celt wrote on Oct 26, 2009 7:00 PM:

" Playing dumb again S-P?

Now answer your own question: "What facts have you seen or measured, at what was your resulting observation?" (I assume you were talking about climate and not aspirins.) Also, wxman asked what your qualifications but you have not answered. What are your qualifications? " "

s-plumb wrote on Oct 26, 2009 6:56 PM:

" how so? "

celt wrote on Oct 26, 2009 6:53 PM:

" Uh, S-P, we are talking about climate change and you did not answer either question. You're sounding a little unhinged. "

s-plumb wrote on Oct 26, 2009 6:10 PM:

" It can take 20 years to bring a new form of aspirin to market. The studies involved are much more controlled than the guesses that have been made about the levels of environmental gasses from the turn of the century.
Perhaps Ben Franklin's kite was taking these measurements. "

s-plumb wrote on Oct 26, 2009 6:06 PM:

" I've seen 1st hand junk science in the "noting" of magical properties of material we supplied to a university proffesor. The research paper he was writing to obtain grant money for the his lab, made it's way to Wall Street. It wasn't a pleseant week for some of us, when the internal questions began. "

celt wrote on Oct 26, 2009 5:39 PM:

" I do not have the capabilities of observing global climate change. Nor do I have that level of training. I am relying on the reporting of the respected organizations I listed (and they do have the training and capabilities required).

Now answer your own question: "What facts have you seen or measured, at what was your resulting observation?" Also, wxman asked what your qualifications but you have not answered. What are your qualifications? "

s-plumb wrote on Oct 26, 2009 5:20 PM:

" celt: What facts have you seen or measured, at what was your resulting observation? "

s-plumb wrote on Oct 26, 2009 5:09 PM:

" wxman: I'm just curious why any person with a technical background would believe blind talking points.
Sorry, but I just don't believe my "peers", when there is $$$ involved.
I've seen what can happen when there's money to be had. It blurrs the boundaries, and many things are taken out of context. "

celt wrote on Oct 26, 2009 4:52 PM:

" S-P and Anna and that ilk, It appears you accept the opinion of Joseph Chabot but not that of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) or NASA or the EPA or RoyalSociety of Meteorology. And even contend that Chabot is correct although meteorological data says he is wrong. What are we to make of that? You are truly members of the "post-fact society" where you prefer opinions that "feel true" to you over scientific evidence. "

wxman wrote on Oct 26, 2009 4:51 PM:

" time for me to go... but S-P, now that you've hammered me for my quals.. what are yours?

my reasoning is I don't have the time to do my own research.. I trust my peers research thru the policy the AMS makes.

As a scientist, you conclude based on the data. You don't presume a conclusion regardless of what the data say. It's not slanted if ALL the data say one thing. These societies don't have a political agenda. They're not Federal departments. No czars involved.

have a nice nite gentlemen "

VladsBack!! wrote on Oct 26, 2009 4:41 PM:

" Thanks for the research wxman. I do appreciate it. Off topic? Maybe, but consider this: you are defending already known and settled science to a handful of people who refuse to believe it or understand it because it doesn't fit their agenda. And climate change isn't the only topic these kooks refuse to understand. It is tiresome. When they have something intelligent to offer besides no, no, no then I'll take clowns like s-p, demarinis, chabot, crowell et al seriously.
Hey how did you like being accused of being me? Told ya, kooky. "

s-plumb wrote on Oct 26, 2009 4:37 PM:

" I both contributed to and read many research papers. A truly unbias paper will "note" observations. There may be a conclusion, but it is to be limited to ruling in or ruling out events in a controlled experiment. Though I haven't meandored through these, If they conclude anything substinative, there's a problem. That type of result is typical in research funded to back a point of view, and is not based purely on science.
So not to belabor the point, why would you approve or agree with a site with only talking points slanted to one point of view? "

wxman wrote on Oct 26, 2009 4:08 PM:

" SP... you want hard research.. here are the journals.. peer-reviewed research papers

http://ams.allenpress.com/perlserv/?request=get-archive&ct=1

knock yourself out. "

wxman wrote on Oct 26, 2009 4:05 PM:

" and Vlad.. We'd all love to discuss issues with you, but you go off topic and get nasty.. often, I just ignore you. "

wxman wrote on Oct 26, 2009 4:05 PM:

" SP, I'd rather not get into it about my quals.. But I got my BS in 1990 and MS in 1992.. Many of my colleauges/professors got their degrees at least 10-20 yrs earlier.. I had my pick of many schools around the country back in 1986 when I graduated HS. Somehow, you may have the mid-80s confused with the mid-50s.

The USN/USAF no longer teach weather forecasting outside of the acadamies, and even as early as 1990 they sent new Lts back to college for a basic weather certificate, a few classes so they could join a military weather team.

Now.. that being said, I have no reason to suspect the Royal Society is biased towards propaganda. As I said, my limited knowledge was that it's reputable. It's comparable to the AMS. It's not Greenpeace or the Sierra Club.. In my opinion, it's not propaganda, but the official statement of another scientific community.

the societies exist to provide a way for professional dissemination of information. As a public service, they also try to educate the public. You can't expect a refereed journal article to be presented for the general public. These journal articles are so specific that I can barely understand what's going on..

Again, my specialty is not Climatology. Therefore I accept the AMS policy.. the research of my peers who are knowledgeable about it. "

VladsBack!! wrote on Oct 26, 2009 3:14 PM:

" C'mon wax, be honest; you are me. "

S-PLUMB wrote on Oct 26, 2009 3:07 PM:

" wxman: I was speaking past tense, back as late as the mid-1980's.
You past the AMS trip-up, so you may be even be familiar with the sciences. That stated, why would you agree with this propoganda site? "

wxman wrote on Oct 26, 2009 2:55 PM:

" S-P.. plenty of schools offer Meteorology/Atmospheric Science.. ULowell and MIT being the closest..also Plymouth State, Lyndon State, SUNY Albany, NYU.. that's just within driving distance that I can name off my head.. There's also FL.State, Penn State, Millersville (PA), UWA, UCLA.. hell...here's the whole list

http://www.ametsoc.org/amsucar_curricula/index.cfm

I am unfamiliar with the RoyalSociety of Meteorology website, just heard of the society's existence. However, I am a full member of the AMS and AWMA (awma.org). Just because it's an ".org" doesn't mean anything other than it's a nonprofit. The AMS is not run by the gov, although many members are employees of the national weather service.

And NO.. I'm definitely NOT VB. "

s-plumb wrote on Oct 26, 2009 2:29 PM:

" So wax, are you just another name made up by JMW/vlad, or are you just pulling our legs? No one could confuse this site as having any association to the AMA Board. "

s-plumb wrote on Oct 26, 2009 2:14 PM:

" wxman: No too many schools offered degrees in meterology. Typically only military Navy/Coast Guard offered coursework in this field.
This is a UK propoganda site; hence the .org vs .gov. It's not the AMA or any of your "brotherhood", so why the reluctance to offer your own input? Where did you get your degree(s), and why aren't you just a tad skeptical, after reaching the masters level, of a site that offers only talking points? "

wxman wrote on Oct 26, 2009 1:58 PM:

" SP.. I'm no expert on climate change, but I am highly educated in meteorology (BS/MS). My specialty is in a different area than climate change.

The Royal Society and American Meteorological Society are highly respected organizations, with no political agenda. My colleagues who are members of the AMS know much more than me about the subject. I am not one to argue with my colleagues who are much more informed on the subject than myself.

Do I believe that there are harmful anthropogenic activities. Absolutely. Should we at least attempt to curb them? Absolutely. Should we be the nation to take the lead? Not sure, that's a political argument. Should we tank our economy to do so? I beleive there's a balance that we need to have. How we get there is highly debatable.

And Vlad.. just because I somewhat agree with you here, I still think you the biggest azzhole around here. You rarely add anything of substance to a conversation, other than antagonizing. I would've banned your lame azz here a long time ago. Now go back to playing Halo in your Mommy's basement. "

S-PLUMB wrote on Oct 26, 2009 1:55 PM:

" calm yourself johnie...the post was a rebuttal to the propaganda site you reference "

VladsBack!! wrote on Oct 26, 2009 1:46 PM:

" Kick the stinkpile and all manner of dung beetles come crawlin' out.
Ah, yes...for the children. I'll let you two clowns slug this out. Should be fun. "

s-plumb wrote on Oct 26, 2009 1:38 PM:

" wxman: How could anyone take a stance against such a disciplined principled post? After-all, the facts are posted there to support vlad's position...oops there are no facts; not even one is cited. They don't even cite common sense. "

wxman wrote on Oct 26, 2009 1:09 PM:

" wow VB.. I actually agree with you (except for your infantile namecalling shtick, it's unbecoming). There are a great many Republicans who are environmentally concious. We as a society should do what we can to keep the environment clean for our children.

However, there is a balance that must be served between caring for our planet, and grinding the global economy to a halt. It's not an easy fix. And it will cost every citizen money. "

VladsBack!! wrote on Oct 26, 2009 12:44 PM:

" NOAA is a good place to go. Also, here is a website with a concise refutation of the wingnut arguments that nothing out of the ordinary is going on, atmospherically speaking:

http://royalsociety.org/page.asp?id=6229

So why waste time arguing with mutts like Chabot, DeMarinis, Plumb, Crowell and others (they know who they are). Let them think what they want; ignorance is bliss - besides, they're WINGNUTS, for cripes sake. Woo-Hoo! "

Anna D wrote on Oct 26, 2009 10:16 AM:

" And the climate "records" that the government talks about have been kept for maybe a hundred years or so, on a planet that is 6 billion years old. Since 1998, the Earth's temperature has dropped about a half a degree. Mr. Chabot is right and the global warming (climate change) hysterics are wrong. The only thing they will create is "Cap and Tax" laws that will cause each family's energy bills to go up by thousands of dollars each year. "

s-plumb wrote on Oct 26, 2009 9:54 AM:

" The goal looking forward is to repeal all of the responses to these global emergencies ASAP. There should never have been bail-outs, take-overs, or stimulus. There should also be no cap & trade legistlation, or back-door mandates through the FDA. Lastly, we have to stop or suspend any gov't run health care! "

s-plumb wrote on Oct 26, 2009 9:50 AM:

" celt: Mr. Chabot is correct, in stating the trend off the peak high temperature seen in 1998. BTW, no climate change is proven to be man made. We have a bunch of numbers that we were never able to measure until recently, and making off the wall claims. "

wxman wrote on Oct 26, 2009 9:47 AM:

" the stimulus funds were supposed to be used for "shovel-ready" projects. I'd rather see my tax money going toward full time firefighters than mile markers every 0.2 miles. "

s-plumb wrote on Oct 26, 2009 9:45 AM:

" These issues are slowly but surely taking their toll. Rasmussen has 0bama's strongly disapprove rating at 41% with a total disapprove at 52%. He's getting closer and closer to critical mass. Let's hope there's still time to stop the madness! "

celt wrote on Oct 26, 2009 9:37 AM:

" If Chabot had bothered to do research before writing his letter he would have found why the name was changed to "climate change." Here's a quote., "according to the National Academy of Sciences, "the phrase 'climate change' is growing in preferred use to 'global warming' because it helps convey that there are [other] changes in addition to rising temperatures."

There's a fact for you. "

celt wrote on Oct 26, 2009 9:24 AM:

" Joseph Chabot starts by saying he wishes people would get their facts straight and in the next sentence he gets his wrong. Chabot talks about a decade of "...flat or dropping global temerature." This is what the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) has to say about temperatures, "...seven of the eight warmest years on record have occurred since 2001 and the 10 warmest years have all occurred since 1995." (http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/globalwarming.html#q3)

You can get your information about climate change from Joseph Chabot or from NOAA. "

harkin wrote on Oct 26, 2009 8:58 AM:

" "...but instead we spend money on projects that are years away."

Gary, shows how little you know about the use of the stimulus funds. Most of the funds require the agencies to contract the funds within 120 days and use the funds within a year, otherwise, they go away. There are no "years out" use plans for stimulus funds.

Also, how is it that countless communities across the country larger than the "town" of North Attleboro, can function with volunteer fire departments? What is it about NA that requires a full-time, paid fire department? "