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GOP Senate hopefuls talk health care



State Sen. Scott Brown speaks during a debate for the GOP U.S. Senate candidates sponsored by the Greater Boston Chamber of Commerce in Boston Monday as businessman Jack E. Robinson listens. The candidates are vying for the seat previously held by Sen. Edward Kennedy. (Associated Press photo)




Brown, Robinson at odds over state's plan, national issue
BOSTON - The two Republicans running to succeed the late Sen. Edward M. Kennedy clashed Monday about whether Massachusetts should serve as a model for the nation's health care overhaul.

State Sen. Scott Brown of Wrentham lauded the near-universal coverage created by the 2006 bill. But he said restrictions and tax elements of the current U.S. House and Senate bills would have the adverse effect of reducing benefits already existing in Massachusetts.

"I'm thankful that we've done something here in Massachusetts, but the other states really should step up and do their own health care plans and bear their own costs," Brown said during a candidate forum sponsored by the Greater Boston Chamber of Commerce. "We should not be subsidizing other states for their health insurance while we're doing it properly here."

Duxbury businessman and attorney Jack E. Robinson said the Massachusetts bill has failed to control costs. He said people should be allowed to buy insurance across state lines, spurring sufficient private competition to create universal coverage.

"The way to solve our health care problem is to create incentives for private market competition," Robinson said. "It's no different from any other industry, health care, education, making widgets: Competition brings down costs."
Kennedy died Aug. 25 of brain cancer. Brown and Robinson are the two Republicans vying to replace him. Four people are seeking the Democratic nomination: Attorney General Martha Coakley, Rep. Michael Capuano, City Year co-founder Alan Khazei and Boston Celtics co-owner Stephen Pagliuca.

The party primaries are Dec. 8, and the special election is Jan. 19.

Both Brown and Robinson face a daunting challenge in their campaigns: Kennedy was a Democratic icon in a heavily Democratic state. The governor of Massachusetts, all six of its constitutional officers, the majorities in both of its legislative chambers and its entire congressional delegation are Democratic.

The sparse crowd of 60 who met for breakfast at a financial district hotel underscored the lack of attention the GOP primary race has received. When the four Democrats met at the same hour and same day last month, more than 400 people were in attendance.

Robinson, a perennial political candidate who attended both Harvard Law and Business schools, cast himself as an entrepreneur. He cited work in the airline and wireless telephone industries as he claimed to have created more than 1,000 jobs during his career.

"I'm a progressive Republican," he told the crowd.

Both he and Brown highlighted their no-new-taxes pledges, and Brown said his work in Wrentham town government, as well as the Massachusetts House and state Senate, has been focused on job creation and elimination of unnecessary government regulation.

"The cost of business is out of control and people are afraid to expand," he said.

Moderator Bill Purcell, the former mayor of Nashville, Tenn., and a professor at the John F. Kennedy School of Government, focused his questions on issues of interest to the Chamber's business membership.

Both Brown and Robinson said they would oppose both the House and Senate health care bills. The Democratic Senate candidates have been casting themselves as the vital 60th vote to prevent a Republican filibuster on the legislation.
On the subject of a second federal stimulus bill, Robinson said the first bill had boosted government but not private-sector job creation. He said he favored a complete elimination of the federal capital gains tax for 2010 to promote business investment and entrepreneurship.

If that were done, he said, "We'll be out of the recession, in my opinion, by the end of next year."

Brown called eliminating the tax impractical, but he said the country does not need a second stimulus bill and should instead move to reclaim the unspent portion of the original bill.

He called for the government to target spending on infrastructure, both to create construction jobs and add the benefits of capital improvements.

"We don't need another trillion dollars of debt added onto our $12 trillion of national debt," Brown said.

On education, Robinson said he supported the federal government setting educational standards, while Brown said he wanted more funding for the No Child Left Behind education law pushed by Kennedy and the most recent Republican president, George W. Bush.

"No Child Left Behind," he said. "Great idea, but they didn't really provide the resources to finish the job."

 


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kevin h. wrote on Nov 25, 2009 2:43 PM:

" Vladsback: There is no government oppression. Your hero the governor sign into law a MANDATE to FORCE people to BUY a license to fish in the OCEAN!!!
You and your Democrat ilk just LOVE to restrict freedom. "

s-plumb wrote on Nov 24, 2009 4:24 PM:

" Romney signed the bill. "

VladsBack!! wrote on Nov 24, 2009 4:10 PM:

" If it isn't Romney's bill, then he should stop taking credit for it. "

artie lange wrote on Nov 24, 2009 4:04 PM:

" Why are we blaming Romney for our health care mess in the state? Did he personally write the bill? No, seeing we have 21 republicans in the MA house and senate combined, I don't see why we name it after him. "

s-plumb wrote on Nov 24, 2009 3:03 PM:

" Sen Brown: Why are you extolling the virtues of Romney-Care, when it's destroying what otherwise might have been a relatively successful state? No child left behind is a joke.
With Mr. Robinson, in the race, it appears we'll have a choice between 2 progressive GOP candidates.
These guys just not understand what's being said. NO "

BARBARIC wrote on Nov 24, 2009 2:43 PM:

" Just a couple opinions. I applaud Brown for going in front of those KP students (seems like a decade ago but the faithful bloggers keep reminding us all). Just because you're an elected official doesn't mean you should just allow a group of immature, ignorant high school students (or anyone for that matter) to defame your reputation and character remotely on some social network or other website.

Cheers Senator Brown for standing up for yourself and your family!

That said, if legalizing gay marriage federally is of the highest concern for some of you then I don't know what to say. For it or against it, I just personally feel like gay marriage is the least of all of our concerns right now, especially in MA where it's already allowed. "

VladsBack!! wrote on Nov 24, 2009 1:44 PM:

" Guess all this freedom stuff you guys keep blubbering about only applies to the backwoods tax policies you're so fond of. Are you sure Brown passes your purity test? After all, he said it was "impractical" to eliminate the capital gains tax. You should demand to see his birth certificate. "

1-20-2013 wrote on Nov 24, 2009 1:36 PM:

" gotitwrong, Well I guess mommy must have told you that it's nappy time, time to turn off the computer....sweet dreams. "

rabblerouser wrote on Nov 24, 2009 1:33 PM:

" GetItRight: Just what we need, Martha the entrenched career politician who has never taken on a tough case as Attorney General. She leaves the dirty work for the Feds.
I as an "unenrolled" voter will be taking a Democratic ballot in the primary to vote for Steve Pagliuca. This career businessman is much more palatable than any of the other candidates on the Democratic ballot.
If it comes down to Brown and Pagliuca, I could live with either choice.
Martha the dolt doesn't get my vote! "

GetItRight wrote on Nov 24, 2009 1:25 PM:

" Aww look it, the Clown caught his tongue, he can't respond to to the bigotry charges... enough of this... snore... this reminds me of the arguments the dummies made before they lost the marriage vote here in MA. Anywho, Brown is a Clown and that is that. p.s. And I love the pen name, the day before Obama's next term, so sweet of you to notice. Bub Bye, over and out. "

artie lange wrote on Nov 24, 2009 1:14 PM:

" 1-20-2013 Leave these people alone. They are sheep to their god Obama. They can't form their own thoughts. They need to vote for whoever is going to vote again the health care bill. They don't understand that its one step closer to a single payer system (which if you go to Youtube and google Obama and single payer, you will see it in his speech). The HC he promised in the elections is not what is being passed. We don't want a single payer system let a lone a government run option. Vote for the person who is going to vote against this deficit raiser. "

s-plumb wrote on Nov 24, 2009 1:13 PM:

" Unless one or the other pledges a freeze on all spending, we may as well vote for a democrat.
In my estimation we will not be out of the recession. Only a fool would believe otherwise.
No wonder we cannot get a foothold in this state.
Write me if you'd like suggestions on how to run for office.
splumb2009@yahoo.com "

gimmesum wrote on Nov 24, 2009 1:11 PM:

" How many times do we hear from the left "you can't legislate morality"? Then when we start talking about marriage, those same people demand civil marriage for same sex couples.

I know couples, gay and staight, old and young who simply do not want or need the state's blessing on their union. They certainly wouldn't mind the financial benefits afforded the married. But it just goes against their core belief that a civil marriage license is an instrument that legislates morality. "

IShouldBeMayor wrote on Nov 24, 2009 1:09 PM:

" Well if you want to use the "brown opposes a civil right" argument then Martha opposes the Civil right to own a firearm (based on her actions as AG) which is specifically written in the US and Massachusetts constitution. No where is gay marriage mentioned. Brown would uphold both constitutions (based on his written views) where Martha blatantly disregards things she doesn't agree with directly in opposition with the oath taken as a senator to uphold and protect the constitution. Now if the constitution was amended to include marriage or any kind, then you may have an argument against Brown, but since that is not the case at the present time your argument is not valid. "

1-20-2013 wrote on Nov 24, 2009 1:07 PM:

" Gotitwrong, Thanks for the Red Herring, but I'm kinda full right now.
Please tell me about your currently-elected "heroes" though. "

GetItRight wrote on Nov 24, 2009 12:38 PM:

" Spoken like Mr. Clown himself... Mr. Brwon "simply opposes gay marriage." How about if he "simply opposed" civil rights for blacks or equality for women, that would be ok, right? The people I voted for are heroes my friend, not cowards like Mr. Clown. "

1-20-2013 wrote on Nov 24, 2009 12:14 PM:

" Interesting that someone who is simply opposed to gay marriage is automatically enshrined as a member of a "hate group."
Hey, by the sound of it, you have already voted for the Bozos....let's see, 12 of them from MA in DC, and the Guv, Lt.Guv, AG, and the majority party on Bacon ("e" not required) Hill. "

GetItRight wrote on Nov 24, 2009 12:01 PM:

" ...and Brown takes the same position as hate groups who aim to deny gays and lesbians equality. I'd sooner vote for Bozo the Clown instead of Brown the Clown. "

IShouldBeMayor wrote on Nov 24, 2009 11:52 AM:

" Brown gets my vote. Martha is in bed with SEIU. "

VladsBack!! wrote on Nov 24, 2009 11:15 AM:

" Feelin' oppressed Kevie? Move to Alaska. "

Drfill wrote on Nov 24, 2009 10:39 AM:

" kevin h - In some of Brown's language, he may be promising lower taxes but he is certainly not offering you or me greater freedom. "

GetItRight wrote on Nov 24, 2009 10:26 AM:

" Tally, you are correct, Brown is a Clown. I look forward to the election to watch Martha win! "

artie lange wrote on Nov 24, 2009 8:26 AM:

" Well both of these candidates have said the magic words to get my vote. "They would oppose both the House and Senate health care bills." "

kevin h. wrote on Nov 24, 2009 8:14 AM:

" Tally, I have not heard reports of Brown using swears since two years ago when he read what was written by high school students.

This from Boston.com:
"Brown has stepped in controversy in his career, most recently in 2007 when, at a student assembly at King Philip Regional High School, he quoted profanities verbatim from student Facebook postings that had criticized Brown and his daughter."

To say it his favorite past time is just a lie.
Your obsession with clowns make one think that perhaps you had a traumatic experience with one in your youth.
Democrats favorite past time is taxing,spending, and mandating what others do. That is provable every day.

It's time for real change in Massachusetts. Lower taxes and greater freedom, the true message of the Constitution, will allow the people the natural right to self determination, to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, without the burden of an oppressive government.
Take your morning slander and stuff it. "

tallyho57 wrote on Nov 24, 2009 7:17 AM:

" Wow, talk about two bumpkins. Scott "the Clown" Brown, whose favorite past-time is to recite swears, vulgarities and obscenities in front of students and their teachers, and Jack E. Robinson, who is definitely NOT playing with a full deck. They're the best the Republican have to offer? Maybe the Republican Party ought to close shop and re-brand itself as The Nut Cake Party in honor of Brown and Robinson. "