Frozen in time
BY DAVID LINTON SUN CHRONICLE STAFF
Sunday, January 24, 2010 9:59 AM EST
Attleboro residents "Cambria"and "Ryan" are part of an underground movement called urban explorers, adventurers who visit abandoned industrial sites, schools, and even sewers because of their love for architecture, art and history. (Staff photo by Mike George)
Urban explorers find adventure in abandoned history
Ryan Ademan remembers the thrill he felt as a child playing in the abandoned R.F. Simmons Co. factory in the Attleboro neighborhood off North Main Street where he grew up.
"No one was there to tell us we couldn't run around in the halls. It was great. It was our little world," Ademan, 24, said of the hours he and his friends played inside the abandoned building, which used to stand where the CVS store is now.
Ademan is an "urban explorer" and Ademan is not his real last name. But it is the one he uses on his urban exploring Web site called Abandoned Dreams, where he posts photographs of abandoned buildings and other structures he has visited all over New England and the Northeast.
While he gets permission to go into some buildings, he and his friends most often just find an open door or window to crawl through, then walk around and explore buildings most people consider eyesores.
Ademan sees them as treasures.
What he and his friends do is considered trespassing and Ademan says he has been arrested at least three times for his hobby. He and his 23-year-old girlfriend - who goes by the name Cambria - do not want to use their real names because they fear prosecution.
They are not vandals, and they deplore the vandalism of the abandoned state hospitals, schools, factories and other buildings they explore and photograph. He is not a trained photographer, but says he loves to document what many people consider eyesores.
"It's just for the love of the buildings. It's about respect for what people had and how people lived," Ademan said.
Urban exploring is a worldwide underground movement and there are books and numerous Web sites devoted to it.
Ademan formed an urban exploring group, also called Abandoned Dreams, in 2006 and it currently has nine members. Several may go out and explore buildings together, but it is rare the entire group goes out at one time.
Ademan, who dropped out of Attleboro High School, began taking photographs after surfing the Web and noticing a friend's photographs posted under a pseudonym. He bought a camera and has no formal training in photography, but does have a keen eye for detail.
"I just picked up a camera one day and found it was a lot of fun," he said.
While some of the urban explorers on the Web post photographs for sale, Ademan says he has not sold or exhibited his photographs at art shows. He said he just has a passion for documenting the buildings and seeing them in a way no one else does.
He and Cambria say they admire the brickwork and craftsmanship in old, abandoned storm drains and sewers they have visited. They say modern construction is just cheap.
The destruction of the R.F. Simmons building of his childhood to make way for the new CVS also served as an important lesson.
"The next time you go to see it, it may not be there," Ademan said.
"That's a big piece of history that's gone. Anything can turn into a parking lot," he said. "We're there to just capture a moment in time."
He and his friends find machinery, notes on bulletin boards or desks among other items that make it appear as if people just got up and left. He said they are amazed at the things that are left behind.
"I've been in (abandoned) hospitals where it was just like people went out for a lunchbreak," he said.
His favorite place to photograph is the abandoned Dever State School in Taunton.
"I saw it and just fell in love with it," he said.
Ademan emphasized that he and his friends merely enter the buildings to photograph them out of admiration for them. They say they get angry when they see the buildings vandalized, burned or damaged by "scrappers."
Ryan and Cambria say they feel that way because vandalism or intentionally started fires is what endangers the buildings and makes them ripe for destruction.
"That's what gets them torn down," Cambria said. "That hurts a lot."
Last year, they said, someone started five fires at Dever.
"It hurts to see buildings torn down. It really does," Cambria said.
They said they have been to 10 states exploring abandoned buildings, including most of New England and some in Pennsylvania.
"This is a big part of my life. It's one of those things that makes me happy," Ademan said.
Ademan says they sometime enter buildings with permission, but most often "just find entrances left by scrappers and vandals or explorers before us."
He says he has been arrested at least three times in the last year and a half, including once in Plainville outside the old Wood School on South Street.
Ademan says he wanted to go into the building, but unknown to him someone had earlier broken a window and police were keeping a close eye on the old school when they spotted him on the property.
He was charged with vandalism and trespassing, but Ademan said the vandalism charge was dismissed.
He said he has no grudge against law enforcement - and, sometimes, security or police have given him a break and not taken him into custody.
"They are just doing their job. But there is the occasional hard ass," he said of police officers.
Once in Boston, they were in an abandoned school and refused to come out until police threatened to send in the K-9 unit. He said police laughed at him and his friends when they walked out with their hands up and their camera equipment.
Ademan says he loves to climb buildings and water towers for better views of the city, and claims to have climbed on the roofs of 100 buildings in Attleboro in one month. He has also climbed buildings in Providence and Boston.
"I just want to see everything from above, to shed some new light on my town. I gain more respect for it to see it that way," Ademan said. "Everybody sees it from ground level."
"Cityscapes are just wonderful. Daytime or nighttime. You just see how small you really are, especially in Boston and Providence," Ademan said.
He and Cambria say they are not too concerned about breathing in something unhealthy inside buildings, although they are aware of asbestos, mold and lead paint in many of the buildings.
"We both smoke cigarettes. You are going to die of something," Ademan said, adding that he is allergic to mold but loves the smell of abandoned places.
He said he has suffered only minor scrapes and bruises from exploring.
Cambria says that while she loves to explore buildings, she has only climbed to the roof of a building once, and doesn't really care for it.
They do, however, have some concern about who they might come across in some of the buildings.
Two weeks ago, Ademan entered an empty building through an open back door and heard a loud noise. Thinking it was another "explorer" like himself, he yelled out, but the person responded by swearing and then walking quickly toward his voice.
"The footsteps were heavy," Ademan said, adding that he hid behind a boiler and watched as the man walked by a few times.
Ademan said he waited until the man walked far enough away, then left the building - but not before updating his Facebook page by cellphone to tell his friends about his predicament.
Scrappers don't like company, Ademan said, and are not friendly.
However, he said he and his friends have shared cigarettes with homeless people they come across on their adventures.
"Homeless people are some of the coolest people you meet," he said.
Ademan said he researches many places he has been inside, especially the Dever State School, which he hoped to write a book about.
He said he and his friends have also talked to former workers and residents about many buildings.
An online magazine or zine, called Infiltration zine, says, "Urban exploration is free, fun and hurts no one. It's a thrilling, mind-expanding hobby that encourages our natural instincts to explore and play in our own environment.
"It encourages people to create their own adventures, like when they were kids, instead of buying the pre-packaged kind. And it nurtures a sense of wonder in the every day spaces we inhabit or pass by that few local history books could ever hope to recreate. I've had some of the best moments of my life while exploring, and I can't recommend the hobby enough."
The New England Urban Exploring Web site describes New England as one of the urban exploring capitals of the United States, with an abundance of abandoned buildings.
"The explorers from New England will always have something to explore. Almost every state has a couple of hospitals to visit, many industrial sites and a whole system of drains under the streets. The history in these buildings are extensive and should still be continued to be told throughout time, even as the buildings close down," the Web site states.
Cambria added: "You develop a feeling for the building. You fall in love with it. You develop a relationship with it."
She says that they have gone into many buildings repeatedly for so long that they are starting to notice the decay in some buildings.
"You get to see what happens over time. Decay happens. You get a new respect for nature," she said.
There are urban explorers all over the world, especially in Europe, where there are numerous post-Cold War relics and the ancient catacombs in Paris.
"I think more people should respect the history of their states and their country," Ademan said. "See what once was and will never be again. Explore everything."
"Urban explorers are just completely different from vandals or scrappers. We're just there for the history, in general," he said. "I just go in, snap my pictures and hang out with the building."
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Ademan wrote on Feb 17, 2010 2:40 PM:
jose21 wrote on Feb 17, 2010 11:01 AM:
s-plumb wrote on Feb 16, 2010 6:48 PM:
You've got talent, and a passion for what you do; always a winning combination.
If I were you I'd press on to gain access legally, but there are obvious limitations.
Best of luck.
Also, kudos to Mr. Linton for a well written piece. A lttle eye openning on that Sunday morning, but well done. "
Ademan wrote on Feb 16, 2010 5:47 PM:
Honest1 wrote on Feb 16, 2010 4:22 PM:
mcgruff wrote on Feb 16, 2010 12:53 PM:
samsammam wrote on Feb 16, 2010 12:00 PM:
celtics1969 wrote on Feb 14, 2010 5:24 PM:
attle wrote on Feb 9, 2010 5:00 PM:
Honest1 wrote on Feb 7, 2010 2:55 PM:
''radar57'' - lets send the history buff to Bristol Jail. And release a child molester or bank robber early to make room for this dangerous guy who takes photos of old stuff.
''nocovercharge''- you said it all- bravo.
''been there'' - your mean demeanor is an indication of where you've been.
''oldgregg''- You sound pretty old.
''cambria''- Growing up in Boston in the 50's I totally relate to what you are doing. It was fun and interesting to explore. And back when adults had common sense and compassion they would not ridicule us for such actions.
''s-plumb'' - your cruel opinions seem to appear during work hours, are you stealing company time?? Or do you work for the 'Sun' and they actually beleive that your working...mmmmm ??
To all of you meanies ' bah hum bug''
and to the kids taking pictures and saving a piece of history '' God Bless'' "
Honest1 wrote on Feb 6, 2010 6:36 PM:
Ademan wrote on Feb 6, 2010 6:00 PM:
S-Plumb, I'm happy we're starting to see things eye to eye. Thank you for the photo compliments. Much appreciated. "
s-plumb wrote on Feb 6, 2010 12:01 PM:
I'm not an art critic, but was impressed with the pictures.
Stay outa trouble :) "
Honest1 wrote on Feb 6, 2010 11:53 AM:
Ademan wrote on Feb 4, 2010 5:47 PM:
Attle:
We've yet to see anything paranormal. I personally don't believe any of that. Never will until I see something for myself.
The website is called Abandoned Dreams and can be located at the following:
Http://www.Ade07.blogspot.com
Http://www.Ade08.blogspot.com
Http://www.AbandonedDreams09.blogspot.com
and
Http://www.AbandonedDreams2010.blogspot.com "
s-plumb wrote on Feb 4, 2010 5:16 PM:
attle wrote on Feb 4, 2010 3:32 PM:
Have you ever experienced any paranormal activity?
Also, what is the name of your website? I'm sure it's listed here somewhere but I missed it. I found some photos from 2007...but you have more recent photos, right?? "
attle wrote on Feb 4, 2010 2:00 PM:
attle wrote on Feb 4, 2010 1:54 PM:
s-plumb wrote on Feb 4, 2010 12:06 PM:
jimmyahs wrote on Feb 4, 2010 10:33 AM:
s-plumb wrote on Feb 3, 2010 7:05 PM:
It appears that many posts are from rival group members who appear to have 1st hand knowledge of this crew's background & lifestyle.
Did you see the coed, fully nude pic of the crew they posted online to memorialize their conquest of one of these “historic” sites? It shows the blatant lack of respect these youngsters have for the places they claim reverence for. Is this the kind of activity you were looking to become involved in?
Is it really snobbish to point out the double standard, and request that illegal activity not be promoted on the front page of the paper’s Sunday edition, as news? If it is, then I and many others are guilty.
Expressing a lawful opinion, doesn’t make an individual “less” than you, and certainly not less than these folks. "
Ademan wrote on Feb 3, 2010 3:49 PM:
attle wrote on Feb 3, 2010 12:45 PM:
oldgregg wrote on Jan 27, 2010 11:34 PM:
midlifecrisisholierthanthou wrote on Jan 27, 2010 8:53 PM:
It seems like you have a lot of pent up frustration, and don't have the coping skills to deal with it in a proper or even mature way. I hope you get over that some day. Good luck. "
oldgregg wrote on Jan 27, 2010 11:59 AM:
midlifecrisisholierthanthou wrote on Jan 27, 2010 2:37 AM:
Woe is me, woe is me, my life is as boring as can be. I've written a little song for thee, to assume makes and a** out of you.... and ... YOU. ;) "
oldgregg wrote on Jan 26, 2010 4:23 PM:
bobbarker80 wrote on Jan 26, 2010 2:43 PM:
Ademan wrote on Jan 26, 2010 6:36 AM:
bobbarker80 wrote on Jan 26, 2010 1:58 AM:
bobbarker80 wrote on Jan 26, 2010 1:44 AM:
Maggot3172 wrote on Jan 25, 2010 9:35 PM:
The Sun Chronicle routinely publishes stories about local crime, car accidents, teen drinking, the recent election, and the downward spiral of the New England Patriots.
The one time they publish a special interest story on something that's nothing more than a unique hobby, people get all huffy and puffy, as if this kid should be on America's Most Wanted or he's a lazy good-for-nothing. Because most Americans live in a politically correct, sanitized world, they'll always judge a book by its cover and I'm guessing that most people assumed that a young 20-something with a Mohawk can't be up to any good.
If more people could just treat their fellow man as a human first and just formulate an opinion second, the world would be a better place. It's possible for Ademan to devote as much time to exploring as other people do hunting and fishing. A lot of people I work with hunt, fish, and coach sports---and many of us work 40 to 60 hours per week! It's perfectly possible and legitimate for someone to work, "contribute to society" and photograph stuff on the weekends as a hobby. I hope Ademan's book is successful. "
jimmyahs wrote on Jan 25, 2010 8:35 PM:
"At that age we were all working 45+ hrs/wk. In our spare time, for yucks, we spent 3-4 nights/wk in school to develop skills needed to contribute to society."
And I bet during his down time he helped cure world poverty. Again, what a tool. "
Ademan wrote on Jan 25, 2010 5:52 PM:
Cambria wrote on Jan 25, 2010 5:10 PM:
s-plumb wrote on Jan 25, 2010 2:37 PM:
jimmyahs wrote on Jan 25, 2010 2:05 PM:
midlifecrisisholierthanthou wrote on Jan 25, 2010 11:44 AM:
s-plumb wrote on Jan 25, 2010 10:50 AM:
I've seen guys like this, as my kids, and those I’ve coached, etc. had to tip-toe around the neighborhood 24 y/o “man-child” who preyed on tweens. "
kevin goodwin wrote on Jan 25, 2010 8:17 AM:
It built my charachter, would people rather these kids stay inside playing videogames and getting fat like so many other kids?
Kudos to you kids, and please post an email address if you are interested in chatting away from this site. I have a few ideas for your next adventure. "
Cambria wrote on Jan 25, 2010 7:21 AM:
Ademan wrote on Jan 25, 2010 6:57 AM:
Ademan wrote on Jan 25, 2010 6:45 AM:
No remains were EVER dug up by me or anyone I know. A single skull was discovered on an outing, but as said many times earlier, it was never disturbed.
Must say Gregg, for someone I'm 95% positive has been on many excursions with me, you sure have a lot to say. It's been made clear you don't care for us. No one cares anymore. "
s-plumb wrote on Jan 25, 2010 5:08 AM:
kevin goodwin wrote on Jan 25, 2010 3:16 AM:
You are a big talking liar. "
Mystress wrote on Jan 25, 2010 1:39 AM:
I will sleep soundly this evening, thank you :) "
oldgregg wrote on Jan 25, 2010 1:25 AM:
For the record,I have several rewarding hobbies,none involve grave desecration or human remains,trespassing etc.
Have a great night,sleep well ! "
Mystress wrote on Jan 25, 2010 1:16 AM:
What happens when you're surfing the internet and you "accidentally" click on a link to a porn site? Do you freak out and email everyone in the world who will listen to complain about it for a week? No, you LEAVE THE SITE and MOVE ON WITH YOUR LIFE. "
Mystress wrote on Jan 25, 2010 1:11 AM:
Perhaps "Indiana Jones" could benefit from some military training, but you could do with a hobby! "
oldgregg wrote on Jan 25, 2010 1:03 AM:
What if that skull were your mother or child? I can only conclude you are somehow tied in to all this,and maybe you are all a little scared of some possible(probable)legal issues involving such heinous and deplorable behavior.
Maybe if he needs some adventure he should join the Marine Corps and explore Afghanistan,but he is more than likely a coward and I doubt he would pass a drug test. "
Mystress wrote on Jan 25, 2010 12:42 AM:
If you dislike it so much, stop reading it. "
oldgregg wrote on Jan 25, 2010 12:34 AM:
oldgregg wrote on Jan 25, 2010 12:32 AM:
I am not so depraved that I would break into a space for human remains and defile and desecrate it with my presence,that's just me though,obviously,others may see things differently.I do see however,the Commonwealth is more aligned with my viewpoint and not our own Indiana Jones !
You people are pathetic. "
Mystress wrote on Jan 25, 2010 12:21 AM:
"...or knowingly aids in such disinterment, removal or conveying away, and whoever is accessory thereto either before or after the fact..."
Since you seem to have spent enough time with Ademan to know all about the "grave robbing, desecration" and other acts of depravity that have supposedly taken place here, does this mean you fall into that category?
Perhaps you should think before you speak. People in glass houses... "
oldgregg wrote on Jan 24, 2010 11:55 PM:
PART IV. CRIMES, PUNISHMENTS AND PROCEEDINGSIN CRIMINAL CASES
TITLE I. CRIMES AND PUNISHMENTS
CHAPTER 272. CRIMES AGAINST CHASTITY, MORALITY, DECENCY AND GOOD ORDER
Chapter 272: Section 73. Tombs, graves, memorials, trees, plants; injuring, removing
Section 73. Whoever wilfully destroys, mutilates, defaces, injures or removes a tomb, monument, gravestone, veteran’s grave marker or metal plaque, veteran’s flag holder that commemorates a particular war, conflict or period of service or flag, or other structure or thing which is placed or designed for a memorial of the dead, or a fence railing, curb or other thing which is intended for the protection or ornament of a structure or thing before mentioned or of an enclosure for the burial of the dead, or wilfully removes, destroys, mutilates, cuts, breaks or injures a tree, shrub or plant placed or being within such enclosure, or wantonly or maliciously disturbs the contents of a tomb or a grave, shall be punished by imprisonment in the state prison for not more than five years or by imprisonment in the jail or house of correction for not more than two and one-half years and by a fine of not more than five thousand dollars. "
oldgregg wrote on Jan 24, 2010 11:52 PM:
PART IV. CRIMES, PUNISHMENTS AND PROCEEDINGSIN CRIMINAL CASES
TITLE I. CRIMES AND PUNISHMENTS
CHAPTER 272. CRIMES AGAINST CHASTITY, MORALITY, DECENCY AND GOOD ORDER
Chapter 272: Section 71. Disinterring bodies
Section 71. Whoever, not being lawfully authorized by the proper authorities, wilfully digs up, disinters, removes or conveys away a human body, or the remains thereof, or knowingly aids in such disinterment, removal or conveying away, and whoever is accessory thereto either before or after the fact, shall be punished by imprisonment in the state prison for not more than three years or in jail for not more than two and one-half years or by a fine of not more than four thousand dollars "
Maggot3172 wrote on Jan 24, 2010 11:46 PM:
I guess he should have used a more sanitary, politically correct term to suit people's fragile feelings, but I think calling him on that remark is a weak attempt to sensationalize Ademan as a bad guy and paint him in a bad light. Weak. Really digging. "
Maggot3172 wrote on Jan 24, 2010 11:37 PM:
Give the guy a break. They're pictures of abandoned buildings. It's not like he's Nick Cage in "National Treasure", stealing the Declaration of Independence. "
ScawtHahshbahgah wrote on Jan 24, 2010 10:47 PM:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_b1GDKl9KRsI/SzDg_Buj_-I/AAAAAAAAGcQ/5_iW21U9nfQ/s1600/edit.jpg "
oldgregg wrote on Jan 24, 2010 10:34 PM:
Ademan wrote on Jan 24, 2010 10:03 PM:
oldgregg wrote on Jan 24, 2010 9:57 PM:
Ademan wrote on Jan 24, 2010 9:49 PM:
to: Sunflower, jimmyah, and everyone else who appreciates the article for what it is, instead of twisting it to what you want, thank you. "
trish wrote on Jan 24, 2010 9:25 PM:
sunflower wrote on Jan 24, 2010 8:44 PM:
oldgregg wrote on Jan 24, 2010 8:37 PM:
Hey Ryan,how about I check out where you live? When are you not at home,How would you feel? I just want to look around, I wont mess with anything LOL "
jimmyahs wrote on Jan 24, 2010 8:28 PM:
oldgregg wrote on Jan 24, 2010 8:10 PM:
been there wrote on Jan 24, 2010 7:10 PM:
Hopefully, tomorrow's headline will feature you again, exposing excuse the pun, who you really are. "
s-plumb wrote on Jan 24, 2010 6:50 PM:
s-plumb wrote on Jan 24, 2010 6:43 PM:
No wonder you refused to come out of the abandon school building in Boston until police threatened to send in the K-9 unit. You were putting your clothes on.
Pure art by solid citizens. Right... "
sinbad wrote on Jan 24, 2010 6:15 PM:
oldgregg wrote on Jan 24, 2010 6:04 PM:
been there wrote on Jan 24, 2010 5:56 PM:
#5 THIS IS NOT NEWS. THIS IS A GROUP OF JERKS WHO ARE NOW STARS. The ONLY news worthy aspect is that they need to be incarsorated.
Do you really think this girlfriend is over the age of consent?
What do you find interesting, newsworthy, or normal/legal? "
Jan wrote on Jan 24, 2010 5:01 PM:
I find this adventure to be quite intriguing and I am in my early 60s.
It's always interesting to get a different view on things and get a peek into the past. Aren't you ever curious as to what became of an old building where you spent some time? When I was a kid, I worked at Shields and now when I pass there it is an apartment/condo building. I'd love to go in there now, just to see the difference. It's just curiosity, which we all have. "
ScawtHahshbahgah wrote on Jan 24, 2010 4:56 PM:
ScawtHahshbahgah wrote on Jan 24, 2010 4:56 PM:
abandonedNH wrote on Jan 24, 2010 3:52 PM:
You guys are good people, and I'll always think that. "
Ademan wrote on Jan 24, 2010 3:43 PM:
abandonedNH wrote on Jan 24, 2010 3:35 PM:
Secondly, kudos to Ademan and Cambria. I've explored with both of them and know for a fact that they are not vandals, terrorists, or anything of the sort. They're both wonderful, dedicated explorers and artists who care about the buildings they explore much akin to how a mother cares about her children. They would never do anything to destroy the integrity of a location. They have never stolen anything or disturbed anything from its final resting place. To all the naysayers that have read and commented on this article, I recommend getting your facts straight and keeping your personal issues to yourself before opening your mouth. "
Ademan wrote on Jan 24, 2010 3:00 PM:
bobbarker80 wrote on Jan 24, 2010 1:52 PM:
Maggot3172 wrote on Jan 24, 2010 1:49 PM:
But curiosity is in all of us, nothing wrong with that. Feeling compelled to take photos to preserve history due to a respect for it is in fewer, which is why so many translate what Urban Explorers are doing as delinquent behavior.
Contemporary Americans believe that their modern conveniences and luxuries happened in a vacuum and devote little thought or regard to how life used to be. These Urban Explorers are simply trying to capture, through photography, how things used to be. It's historical preservation. It's a constructive hobby. Dismissing these people as vandals displays a shallow thought process.
I would urge caution and vigilance in their exploration, because you never know who or what you might run into an an abandoned building. Otherwise, they're harmless. "
Mr. Ducke wrote on Jan 24, 2010 1:36 PM:
As someone who does not know Ryan personally, yet has had some communication online with him over the years due to our common interest in local history, I would like to ask "been there" where his hostility is coming from. I laugh at your reference to grave digging, because in fact local cemeteries is an interest we share in common, and for many years Ryan was the only person who got out with a rake and tidied up around the forgotten Peck burial plot in Attleboro because of his respect for the past. "
been there wrote on Jan 24, 2010 1:28 PM:
You're nothing more than a weirdo, who happens to be a con artist. We had them in our generation too.
Next year when they evict 1/2 the city residents, perhaps you can break in the homes they cannot enter, and take pictures of what they left behind.
Even you must admit that this is not news.
You'll be behind bars soon enough. Where's Scoobie-doo when you need him? "
Ademan wrote on Jan 24, 2010 1:19 PM:
Maggot3172 wrote on Jan 24, 2010 1:12 PM:
I found that I had an eye for similar things when I was deployed to Iraq.
Most notably: Sewer caps. They had Cyrillic writing on them. In western Anbar Province, the writing took the form of Oriental characters.
Saddam never trusted his own people when it came to public works projects. He hired outsiders like Yugoslavians (even though the country no longer exists) and North Koreans to build roads, bridges, and sewers for him.
And also jails, from what I understood. "
Ademan wrote on Jan 24, 2010 1:11 PM:
been there wrote on Jan 24, 2010 1:06 PM:
Are we who worked in these places, to bow to you because you have no sense of decency?
I'm not sure which is worse, your kind, or a society that allows you free reign. "
Ademan wrote on Jan 24, 2010 12:58 PM:
Maggot3172 wrote on Jan 24, 2010 12:52 PM:
Any photos or comments about the 1930s---when FDR expanded the government and funded a lot of our public works, Ademan? "
Maggot3172 wrote on Jan 24, 2010 12:45 PM:
On the subject of POW camps, Fort Getty, loactaed on the west coast of Jamestown, was the location of a German POW re-education camp during the later stages of World War II. A few concrete structures are all that remains of Getty now; It is used as an RV camp for vacationers now.
I am pretty sure that the Massachusetts Military Reservation in Bourne, also known as Otis Air Base and Camp Myles Standish, were used for similar purposes, however I could be wrong. New England's coastal World War II history on the homefront is a forgotten footnote of that era.
I love historical preservation, enjoyed the article also. Keep up the good work, "Ademan", just be careful. "
Ademan wrote on Jan 24, 2010 12:38 PM:
sinbad wrote on Jan 24, 2010 12:26 PM:
Ademan wrote on Jan 24, 2010 12:18 PM:
sinbad wrote on Jan 24, 2010 12:14 PM:
Ademan wrote on Jan 24, 2010 12:09 PM:
sinbad wrote on Jan 24, 2010 12:07 PM:
Ademan wrote on Jan 24, 2010 11:49 AM:
been there wrote on Jan 24, 2010 11:18 AM:
These two are just privileged bums; a new breed of hippies.
In fact, in the 60's they'd be hanging with chuck manson.
Very newsworthy...front page stuff! Now we can put them behind bars. "
Ademan wrote on Jan 24, 2010 10:58 AM:
kevin goodwin wrote on Jan 24, 2010 10:29 AM:
You guys should see if you can get into union theater and see what is there. I loved the smell of all these old abandoned buildings. The heavy thick wood floors, the old metal radiators, life so much simpler and better back then. "
Ademan wrote on Jan 24, 2010 10:15 AM:
kevin goodwin wrote on Jan 24, 2010 10:10 AM:
joshabcd wrote on Jan 24, 2010 10:09 AM:
I used to do the same thing all of the time. Never knew there was an official name for it though. You guys should check out the tunnels at Fort Witherel in Jamestown. It was never a factory, but the tunnels are fun to explore anyway. Bring water proof boots and keep on the lookout for random pits that you can fall into. Great view from the roof of the place as well. "
Ademan wrote on Jan 24, 2010 10:08 AM:
joshabcd wrote on Jan 24, 2010 10:06 AM:
Jan wrote on Jan 24, 2010 10:04 AM:
He will have very interesting stories to tell his children and grandchildren some day! "
Ademan wrote on Jan 24, 2010 9:49 AM:
realist wrote on Jan 24, 2010 9:46 AM:
Ademan wrote on Jan 24, 2010 9:28 AM:
oldgregg wrote on Jan 24, 2010 9:17 AM:
nocovercharge wrote on Jan 24, 2010 9:05 AM:
Never anything nice to say.
Like sickos with a keyboard, ready to attack.
I enjoyed the article. It's nice to have a hobby. Might be nice for you debbie downers to get one. "
getreal wrote on Jan 24, 2010 8:59 AM:
radar57 wrote on Jan 24, 2010 7:58 AM:
tahraann wrote on Jan 24, 2010 7:31 AM:
lawvic wrote on Jan 24, 2010 7:24 AM:
nannystate wrote on Jan 24, 2010 6:08 AM:
bobbarker80 wrote on Jan 24, 2010 6:07 AM:
Also, I know for a fact you did take it, but go ahead and stick to your story. "
Ademan wrote on Jan 24, 2010 5:46 AM:
bobbarker80 wrote on Jan 24, 2010 5:40 AM:
Ademan wrote on Jan 24, 2010 3:58 AM:
oldgregg wrote on Jan 24, 2010 3:50 AM:
Ademan wrote on Jan 24, 2010 3:42 AM: