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Attleboro residents "Cambria"and "Ryan" are part of an underground movement called urban explorers, adventurers who visit abandoned industrial sites, schools, and even sewers because of their love for architecture, art and history. (Staff photo by Mike George)




Urban explorers find adventure in abandoned history
Ryan Ademan remembers the thrill he felt as a child playing in the abandoned R.F. Simmons Co. factory in the Attleboro neighborhood off North Main Street where he grew up.

"No one was there to tell us we couldn't run around in the halls. It was great. It was our little world," Ademan, 24, said of the hours he and his friends played inside the abandoned building, which used to stand where the CVS store is now.

Ademan is an "urban explorer" and Ademan is not his real last name. But it is the one he uses on his urban exploring Web site called Abandoned Dreams, where he posts photographs of abandoned buildings and other structures he has visited all over New England and the Northeast.

While he gets permission to go into some buildings, he and his friends most often just find an open door or window to crawl through, then walk around and explore buildings most people consider eyesores.

Ademan sees them as treasures.
What he and his friends do is considered trespassing and Ademan says he has been arrested at least three times for his hobby. He and his 23-year-old girlfriend - who goes by the name Cambria - do not want to use their real names because they fear prosecution.

They are not vandals, and they deplore the vandalism of the abandoned state hospitals, schools, factories and other buildings they explore and photograph. He is not a trained photographer, but says he loves to document what many people consider eyesores.

"It's just for the love of the buildings. It's about respect for what people had and how people lived," Ademan said.

Urban exploring is a worldwide underground movement and there are books and numerous Web sites devoted to it.

Ademan formed an urban exploring group, also called Abandoned Dreams, in 2006 and it currently has nine members. Several may go out and explore buildings together, but it is rare the entire group goes out at one time.

Ademan, who dropped out of Attleboro High School, began taking photographs after surfing the Web and noticing a friend's photographs posted under a pseudonym. He bought a camera and has no formal training in photography, but does have a keen eye for detail.

"I just picked up a camera one day and found it was a lot of fun," he said.

While some of the urban explorers on the Web post photographs for sale, Ademan says he has not sold or exhibited his photographs at art shows. He said he just has a passion for documenting the buildings and seeing them in a way no one else does.

He and Cambria say they admire the brickwork and craftsmanship in old, abandoned storm drains and sewers they have visited. They say modern construction is just cheap.

The destruction of the R.F. Simmons building of his childhood to make way for the new CVS also served as an important lesson.
"The next time you go to see it, it may not be there," Ademan said.

"That's a big piece of history that's gone. Anything can turn into a parking lot," he said. "We're there to just capture a moment in time."

He and his friends find machinery, notes on bulletin boards or desks among other items that make it appear as if people just got up and left. He said they are amazed at the things that are left behind.

"I've been in (abandoned) hospitals where it was just like people went out for a lunchbreak," he said.

His favorite place to photograph is the abandoned Dever State School in Taunton.

"I saw it and just fell in love with it," he said.

Ademan emphasized that he and his friends merely enter the buildings to photograph them out of admiration for them. They say they get angry when they see the buildings vandalized, burned or damaged by "scrappers."

Ryan and Cambria say they feel that way because vandalism or intentionally started fires is what endangers the buildings and makes them ripe for destruction.

"That's what gets them torn down," Cambria said. "That hurts a lot."

Last year, they said, someone started five fires at Dever.

"It hurts to see buildings torn down. It really does," Cambria said.

They said they have been to 10 states exploring abandoned buildings, including most of New England and some in Pennsylvania.

"This is a big part of my life. It's one of those things that makes me happy," Ademan said.

Ademan says they sometime enter buildings with permission, but most often "just find entrances left by scrappers and vandals or explorers before us."

He says he has been arrested at least three times in the last year and a half, including once in Plainville outside the old Wood School on South Street.

Ademan says he wanted to go into the building, but unknown to him someone had earlier broken a window and police were keeping a close eye on the old school when they spotted him on the property.

He was charged with vandalism and trespassing, but Ademan said the vandalism charge was dismissed.

He said he has no grudge against law enforcement - and, sometimes, security or police have given him a break and not taken him into custody.

"They are just doing their job. But there is the occasional hard ass," he said of police officers.

Once in Boston, they were in an abandoned school and refused to come out until police threatened to send in the K-9 unit. He said police laughed at him and his friends when they walked out with their hands up and their camera equipment.

Ademan says he loves to climb buildings and water towers for better views of the city, and claims to have climbed on the roofs of 100 buildings in Attleboro in one month. He has also climbed buildings in Providence and Boston.

"I just want to see everything from above, to shed some new light on my town. I gain more respect for it to see it that way," Ademan said. "Everybody sees it from ground level."

"Cityscapes are just wonderful. Daytime or nighttime. You just see how small you really are, especially in Boston and Providence," Ademan said.

He and Cambria say they are not too concerned about breathing in something unhealthy inside buildings, although they are aware of asbestos, mold and lead paint in many of the buildings.

"We both smoke cigarettes. You are going to die of something," Ademan said, adding that he is allergic to mold but loves the smell of abandoned places.

He said he has suffered only minor scrapes and bruises from exploring.

Cambria says that while she loves to explore buildings, she has only climbed to the roof of a building once, and doesn't really care for it.

They do, however, have some concern about who they might come across in some of the buildings.

Two weeks ago, Ademan entered an empty building through an open back door and heard a loud noise. Thinking it was another "explorer" like himself, he yelled out, but the person responded by swearing and then walking quickly toward his voice.

"The footsteps were heavy," Ademan said, adding that he hid behind a boiler and watched as the man walked by a few times.

Ademan said he waited until the man walked far enough away, then left the building - but not before updating his Facebook page by cellphone to tell his friends about his predicament.

Scrappers don't like company, Ademan said, and are not friendly.

However, he said he and his friends have shared cigarettes with homeless people they come across on their adventures.

"Homeless people are some of the coolest people you meet," he said.

Ademan said he researches many places he has been inside, especially the Dever State School, which he hoped to write a book about.

He said he and his friends have also talked to former workers and residents about many buildings.

An online magazine or zine, called Infiltration zine, says, "Urban exploration is free, fun and hurts no one. It's a thrilling, mind-expanding hobby that encourages our natural instincts to explore and play in our own environment.

"It encourages people to create their own adventures, like when they were kids, instead of buying the pre-packaged kind. And it nurtures a sense of wonder in the every day spaces we inhabit or pass by that few local history books could ever hope to recreate. I've had some of the best moments of my life while exploring, and I can't recommend the hobby enough."

The New England Urban Exploring Web site describes New England as one of the urban exploring capitals of the United States, with an abundance of abandoned buildings.

"The explorers from New England will always have something to explore. Almost every state has a couple of hospitals to visit, many industrial sites and a whole system of drains under the streets. The history in these buildings are extensive and should still be continued to be told throughout time, even as the buildings close down," the Web site states.

Cambria added: "You develop a feeling for the building. You fall in love with it. You develop a relationship with it."

She says that they have gone into many buildings repeatedly for so long that they are starting to notice the decay in some buildings.

"You get to see what happens over time. Decay happens. You get a new respect for nature," she said.

There are urban explorers all over the world, especially in Europe, where there are numerous post-Cold War relics and the ancient catacombs in Paris.

"I think more people should respect the history of their states and their country," Ademan said. "See what once was and will never be again. Explore everything."

"Urban explorers are just completely different from vandals or scrappers. We're just there for the history, in general," he said. "I just go in, snap my pictures and hang out with the building."

 


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Ademan wrote on Feb 17, 2010 2:40 PM:

" Jose, We're not really inspectors so much as explorers. I, myself have been through the armory dozens of times, with permission, as it's still an active building. I've always been a fan of old armories. The architecture is simply amazing. "

jose21 wrote on Feb 17, 2010 11:01 AM:

" Have you inspected the Attleboro Armory building? "

s-plumb wrote on Feb 16, 2010 6:48 PM:

" Ryan: I honestly believe you handled yourself well throughout.
You've got talent, and a passion for what you do; always a winning combination.
If I were you I'd press on to gain access legally, but there are obvious limitations.
Best of luck.
Also, kudos to Mr. Linton for a well written piece. A lttle eye openning on that Sunday morning, but well done. "

Ademan wrote on Feb 16, 2010 5:47 PM:

" thanks to everyone who's appreciated the article, much appreciated. To anyone who didn't, say what you will. Doesn't bother me any. "

Honest1 wrote on Feb 16, 2010 4:22 PM:

" At least he has hair. Meanie.... "

mcgruff wrote on Feb 16, 2010 12:53 PM:

" nice hair weirdo. "

samsammam wrote on Feb 16, 2010 12:00 PM:

" Not sure if this was mantioned but there are tons of hidden rooms under the businesses in downtown Att. very interesting to see what they were all used for. Also, I visited Seattle WA about a year ago and went on a tour of the underground portion of the city. Was the coolest thing I have ever seen. The history is absolutely amazing.. If you ever get the chance you have to go. About a half mile from the fishermans warf is where they give the tours. "

celtics1969 wrote on Feb 14, 2010 5:24 PM:

" Ademan, keep up the good work. I love your websites. I'm a 40 year old guy with 3 kids and 2 jobs who doesn't have the time to be doing any UE so i love checking out the photos on your blog. Don't mind the haters -they're just jealous. "

attle wrote on Feb 9, 2010 5:00 PM:

" Thanks...I can't wait to check out your photos. "

Honest1 wrote on Feb 7, 2010 2:55 PM:

" ''nannystate'' Remember the days when those mentally less fortunate lived in ''state hospitals''. They're now housed in County Jails - improvement!!?
''radar57'' - lets send the history buff to Bristol Jail. And release a child molester or bank robber early to make room for this dangerous guy who takes photos of old stuff.
''nocovercharge''- you said it all- bravo.
''been there'' - your mean demeanor is an indication of where you've been.
''oldgregg''- You sound pretty old.
''cambria''- Growing up in Boston in the 50's I totally relate to what you are doing. It was fun and interesting to explore. And back when adults had common sense and compassion they would not ridicule us for such actions.
''s-plumb'' - your cruel opinions seem to appear during work hours, are you stealing company time?? Or do you work for the 'Sun' and they actually beleive that your working...mmmmm ??

To all of you meanies ' bah hum bug''
and to the kids taking pictures and saving a piece of history '' God Bless'' "

Honest1 wrote on Feb 6, 2010 6:36 PM:

" ''Ademan'' Don't take the mean and negative comments of other to heart. There are some people just waiting to attack. I too have encountered them myself while commenting on various subjects. Its nice to know that there are young adults like yourself that show interest in old things. Good Luck in your endeavors !! As far as the Negative people are concerned, they are actually making themselves look like terrible people. "

Ademan wrote on Feb 6, 2010 6:00 PM:

" Honest1, thank you very much. I'm also an avid cemetery fan, having spent and photographed at least 100 different ones around N.E. over the years.
S-Plumb, I'm happy we're starting to see things eye to eye. Thank you for the photo compliments. Much appreciated. "

s-plumb wrote on Feb 6, 2010 12:01 PM:

" Ryan: Though I still have a HUGE issue with the placement and apparent advocacy by the paper for an illegal activity, but this was obviously beyond your control.
I'm not an art critic, but was impressed with the pictures.
Stay outa trouble :) "

Honest1 wrote on Feb 6, 2010 11:53 AM:

" I see nothing wrong with exploring the old. Todays society is far too fast paced living in fast forward mode. I can appreciate what these guys are doing, sometimes I enjoy reading old grave stones when I have the opportunity to shutoff the fast forward button. And to all you meanies 'Just Stop It', no good can come out of constant negative remarks and negative views. To all of you people who find it enjoyable to hurt others with your mean statements please sign up for a class 'Anger Mgmt'. asap. "

Ademan wrote on Feb 4, 2010 5:47 PM:

" I just want to preface this by saying we know what we do is illegal. We know it's unsafe. We know these places were closed for reasons. We give these locations the highest respect every time we visit a location. The nude photo was for a scavenger hunt, as mentioned in an earlier response, not a normal occurrence. We never went to the Sun asking for them to do a story on us. They asked us, out of historical interest. I fully understand why you would think this should not have been front page news, as I myself was surprised to see it when I got it Sunday morning.
Attle:
We've yet to see anything paranormal. I personally don't believe any of that. Never will until I see something for myself.
The website is called Abandoned Dreams and can be located at the following:
Http://www.Ade07.blogspot.com
Http://www.Ade08.blogspot.com
Http://www.AbandonedDreams09.blogspot.com
and
Http://www.AbandonedDreams2010.blogspot.com "

s-plumb wrote on Feb 4, 2010 5:16 PM:

" attle: No problems. Thanks. "

attle wrote on Feb 4, 2010 3:32 PM:

" ademan, (I'm sure I'll suffer the wrath of some posters here but here goes...)
Have you ever experienced any paranormal activity?

Also, what is the name of your website? I'm sure it's listed here somewhere but I missed it. I found some photos from 2007...but you have more recent photos, right?? "

attle wrote on Feb 4, 2010 2:00 PM:

" just read the rest of your post...I didn't look at the photos. and NOPE not what I want to be involved in. apologies again...always enjoy your posts. "

attle wrote on Feb 4, 2010 1:54 PM:

" sorry s-plumb, I didn't read your entire post but I agree with you...I wanted to add in mine 'except SPlumb'...you're always respectful and don't criticize childishly for no reason. I'm sooooooooo tired of some of these people and when I say 'snobs' I mean gimmesum who didn't care to hear my opinion because I'm not 'prolific' enough and KevinH who always has a rude comment for me. I'm just sensitive! :) sorry....I can agree to disagree. I do have a fascination for old buildings...never entered any but I can't say I wouldn't if the chance presented itself. "

s-plumb wrote on Feb 4, 2010 12:06 PM:

" First, I don’t know Scott Brown from a hole in the wall...Actually, I haven't seen the picture. I'm also not sure what this has to do with desecrating a site this crew claims to preserve with reverence. "

jimmyahs wrote on Feb 4, 2010 10:33 AM:

" splumb. Did you see your man Scott Brown, in the 80s, fully nude in a women's magazine? What's the difference. You are an old fool splumb, of whom we've all grown very tired. "

s-plumb wrote on Feb 3, 2010 7:05 PM:

" attle: My recollection is that we generally agree; just not here.
It appears that many posts are from rival group members who appear to have 1st hand knowledge of this crew's background & lifestyle.
Did you see the coed, fully nude pic of the crew they posted online to memorialize their conquest of one of these “historic” sites? It shows the blatant lack of respect these youngsters have for the places they claim reverence for. Is this the kind of activity you were looking to become involved in?
Is it really snobbish to point out the double standard, and request that illegal activity not be promoted on the front page of the paper’s Sunday edition, as news? If it is, then I and many others are guilty.
Expressing a lawful opinion, doesn’t make an individual “less” than you, and certainly not less than these folks. "

Ademan wrote on Feb 3, 2010 3:49 PM:

" Thanks Attle. Glad you enjoyed. "

attle wrote on Feb 3, 2010 12:45 PM:

" I stumbled on this article doing a search on the history of Attleboro buildings. I completely understand where these people are coming from. I find old buildings, the history and the stories completely fascinating. It's a hobby. It's illegal to enter most but they are not hurting anyone. It's also illegal to jaywalk. Keep up the good work!!! I'm so sick of the blabbermouth, snobs and insulting people that blog on SC. Good luck and good riddence to you all....I'm a better person when I'm not getting sucked into your childishness. "

oldgregg wrote on Jan 27, 2010 11:34 PM:

" You are indeed correct! I am thankful my transgression will not put me in prison, good luck to you as well ! (my usage is not a fragment). "

midlifecrisisholierthanthou wrote on Jan 27, 2010 8:53 PM:

" By the way, if you're going to insult someones intelligence based on grammatical errors, proof read your own message. (there is usually a space between a comma and the second part of a sentence)

It seems like you have a lot of pent up frustration, and don't have the coping skills to deal with it in a proper or even mature way. I hope you get over that some day. Good luck. "

oldgregg wrote on Jan 27, 2010 11:59 AM:

" My you are a talented songwriter-by the way,it would be "vomiting their" and not "vomiting there". If you are going to try to insult a person,use the correct word, otherwise you look like a fool,maybe you should have----gone to school! "

midlifecrisisholierthanthou wrote on Jan 27, 2010 2:37 AM:

" Oh no, someone else is getting attention! It's such as shame the only way oldgregg, s-plumb, and bobbarker80 can get attention is by vomiting there barely processed opinions in the form of comments towards articles on the Sun Chronicle's website.

Woe is me, woe is me, my life is as boring as can be. I've written a little song for thee, to assume makes and a** out of you.... and ... YOU. ;) "

oldgregg wrote on Jan 26, 2010 4:23 PM:

" Why do I get the feeling his bedroom is in his parents basement? "

bobbarker80 wrote on Jan 26, 2010 2:43 PM:

" How shocking that you would lie again. Last chance, and you blew it. That seems to be a reoccuring habit huh? You, blowing things, and at things. Don't worry though, I'm not who you think, well, because you're clearly just retarded. And there is most definitely a picture of your room, with that skull in the background. Think they can match dental records and such through photographs? We'll find out. "

Ademan wrote on Jan 26, 2010 6:36 AM:

" I'd actually love to see this photograph of me with the skull in my bedroom. Especially since the skull has never been within a 10 mile radius of my house. I'm sorry you were tossed from the group bro, but let old drama stay in the past. "

bobbarker80 wrote on Jan 26, 2010 1:58 AM:

" For the record, the thought of you not doing drugs or drinking is absolutely hillarious. I have pictures of that as well, if you'd like them too. And I would hardly consider working at Dunkin Donuts something to be excessively proud of. "

bobbarker80 wrote on Jan 26, 2010 1:44 AM:

" Wow, my last comment is gone. shocking. Perhaps I didn't make myself clear. You, Ryan are a bad liar. Also, you hang out with idiots.. so think really reallly hard, as to whether or not any pictures exist of YOU, and the HUMAN SKULL hanging out in your bedroom. Because that would be pretty concrete evidence that you removed it from the tomb, and I suppose they may just have to be printed and turned into the authorities. I'm advising that you just come clean, because now you're bothering me and I might do something rash. Just one picture with even the skull in the background...and you're done, so think about that for a bit. "

Maggot3172 wrote on Jan 25, 2010 9:35 PM:

" Yeah, if this thread indicates one thing, it's that some people really need to lighten up. Sheesh, some people would complain if you hung them with a new rope!

The Sun Chronicle routinely publishes stories about local crime, car accidents, teen drinking, the recent election, and the downward spiral of the New England Patriots.

The one time they publish a special interest story on something that's nothing more than a unique hobby, people get all huffy and puffy, as if this kid should be on America's Most Wanted or he's a lazy good-for-nothing. Because most Americans live in a politically correct, sanitized world, they'll always judge a book by its cover and I'm guessing that most people assumed that a young 20-something with a Mohawk can't be up to any good.

If more people could just treat their fellow man as a human first and just formulate an opinion second, the world would be a better place. It's possible for Ademan to devote as much time to exploring as other people do hunting and fishing. A lot of people I work with hunt, fish, and coach sports---and many of us work 40 to 60 hours per week! It's perfectly possible and legitimate for someone to work, "contribute to society" and photograph stuff on the weekends as a hobby. I hope Ademan's book is successful. "

jimmyahs wrote on Jan 25, 2010 8:35 PM:

" Is it just me or is everyone laughing their butts off at splumb's statement:
"At that age we were all working 45+ hrs/wk. In our spare time, for yucks, we spent 3-4 nights/wk in school to develop skills needed to contribute to society."
And I bet during his down time he helped cure world poverty. Again, what a tool. "

Ademan wrote on Jan 25, 2010 5:52 PM:

" Yeah, we definitely both work 40 hour jobs. I guess at 24 I should sit in front of my computer all day running my mouth on a newspaper website? What we do is far from "partying". Neither of us drink or do drugs. We're not out starting bonfires in these locations. We take photographs of places that will one day be just a memory to those who walked/drove by it for years. Tell me you've never remembered something from your childhood and wished to see it one last time, and I'll call you a liar. "

Cambria wrote on Jan 25, 2010 5:10 PM:

" Not that I need to explain, but for the record I've spent the majority of the past three years working two jobs and yet still seem to have time to enjoy myself. :) "

s-plumb wrote on Jan 25, 2010 2:37 PM:

" Oh no not a bully...that's a surprise :) Now put some clothes on. "

jimmyahs wrote on Jan 25, 2010 2:05 PM:

" What a tool you are splumb. How pompous can one person be? Well, I guess splumb answers that question day in and day out. Oh what a model citizen you splumb, working 45 hours a week and in your spare time learning skills to benefit society. Pleeeeeeeeeeeeease. spare us. Here's a benefit to society, go away. "

midlifecrisisholierthanthou wrote on Jan 25, 2010 11:44 AM:

" s-plumb, are the prunes starting to taste bitter? Thats to claim there is any fiber in your diet at all. Just because when you were that age, you spent your time having as much personality as a counter top, and contributing as much to society as a door mat, doesn't give you the right to make false accusations about someone you do not even know.. I wonder where you read anything in this article about either of them being jobless? Or where you read anything about them spending time preying on what you refer to as tweens? Keep your bitterness and slander to the knitting circles. You'd think someone who allegedly spent that much time in school would have at least a shred of intelligence. "

s-plumb wrote on Jan 25, 2010 10:50 AM:

" At 24 party time is over. At that age we were all working 45+ hrs/wk. In our spare time, for yucks, we spent 3-4 nights/wk in school to develop skills needed to contribute to society.
I've seen guys like this, as my kids, and those I’ve coached, etc. had to tip-toe around the neighborhood 24 y/o “man-child” who preyed on tweens. "

kevin goodwin wrote on Jan 25, 2010 8:17 AM:

" Of course I saw the picture. It looks to be part of one of those scavenger hunts you always hear about. I am not a big fan of those shots, or the grafitti and jokes and such---but the good far outweighs the bad. They are still young, and of course make mistakes. I use to run from the police when we used to scout Bliss school. I regret some of what I did when I was a kid---but not much of it.

It built my charachter, would people rather these kids stay inside playing videogames and getting fat like so many other kids?

Kudos to you kids, and please post an email address if you are interested in chatting away from this site. I have a few ideas for your next adventure. "

Cambria wrote on Jan 25, 2010 7:21 AM:

" I just wanted to take a minute to thank everyone for taking the time to check out the article, as well as everyone at the Sun Chronicle for showing an interest and putting it all together. I'm glad that we could share our story, and I'm really happy that some people actually took the time to remember exploring as a child, or thought about what their old stomping grounds might look like today. It's a shame some just can't bring themselves out of the box enough to make sense of it. We are not trying to advocate or glorify illegal activity. We are merely capturing moments in time that would otherwise be lost to the human eye. I, myself, find immense beauty in a building where lack of human maintenance has caused holes in the ceiling where the sun shines down onto worn forgotten armchairs and trees and vines work their way in through broken windows to reclaim what was once theirs. Oftentimes there's a risk before you get the reward. Some people will always be too afraid to take it. "

Ademan wrote on Jan 25, 2010 6:57 AM:

" To elaborate, by "the picture posted" I was referring to the image ScawtHahshbahgah so nicely posted from my website. "

Ademan wrote on Jan 25, 2010 6:45 AM:

" Alright, let's do this. The photo posted was for a scavenger hunt for another UE based web forum. I've done it two years ion a row now. If you read my website as much as you claim to, you'd have known that. Fun and games my friend.
No remains were EVER dug up by me or anyone I know. A single skull was discovered on an outing, but as said many times earlier, it was never disturbed.
Must say Gregg, for someone I'm 95% positive has been on many excursions with me, you sure have a lot to say. It's been made clear you don't care for us. No one cares anymore. "

s-plumb wrote on Jan 25, 2010 5:08 AM:

" kev: Have you viewed the scum disrobed in a link posted by ScawtHahshbahgah and another earlier post? This crew is the underbelly of any civilized society. "

kevin goodwin wrote on Jan 25, 2010 3:16 AM:

" You oldgregg are a liar. Post a link to the shots you have--or be proven a liar. If you are really turning them to a friend in a LEO, I will meet you in the center of Attleboro with $1k in cash.

You are a big talking liar. "

Mystress wrote on Jan 25, 2010 1:39 AM:

" Clearly, cyber stalking is one of them.

I will sleep soundly this evening, thank you :) "

oldgregg wrote on Jan 25, 2010 1:25 AM:

" Well,I have copies of all the pics and have captured all the web-pages as well as the Sun Chronicle article.I am turning it all over to a friend in law enforcement.
For the record,I have several rewarding hobbies,none involve grave desecration or human remains,trespassing etc.
Have a great night,sleep well ! "

Mystress wrote on Jan 25, 2010 1:16 AM:

" And for the record, no one forced you to type Ademan's web address into your browser. You went there by your own volition.

What happens when you're surfing the internet and you "accidentally" click on a link to a porn site? Do you freak out and email everyone in the world who will listen to complain about it for a week? No, you LEAVE THE SITE and MOVE ON WITH YOUR LIFE. "

Mystress wrote on Jan 25, 2010 1:11 AM:

" Sadly, you are mistaken. I am not "tied in to all this." I am just someone who happened to read an interesting article, and got sick of seeing negative comments being traded back and forth from people with nothing better to do with their time.

Perhaps "Indiana Jones" could benefit from some military training, but you could do with a hobby! "

oldgregg wrote on Jan 25, 2010 1:03 AM:

" Would you like me to forward the pictures taken from his website of them in a crypt,complete with human skulls,or the pic of four of them naked(maybe one of them is you?)"respecting"another site?
What if that skull were your mother or child? I can only conclude you are somehow tied in to all this,and maybe you are all a little scared of some possible(probable)legal issues involving such heinous and deplorable behavior.
Maybe if he needs some adventure he should join the Marine Corps and explore Afghanistan,but he is more than likely a coward and I doubt he would pass a drug test. "

Mystress wrote on Jan 25, 2010 12:42 AM:

" Yes, I am pathetic... I am the one who has been stalking the Sun Chronicle website for the past 12 hours, quoting Massachusetts laws and complaining because some local kids have a hobby I don't like.

If you dislike it so much, stop reading it. "

oldgregg wrote on Jan 25, 2010 12:34 AM:

" I have never met your young hero,we travel in different circles I suppose. "

oldgregg wrote on Jan 25, 2010 12:32 AM:

" No,I just need to look at the pictures he posted on the internet.
I am not so depraved that I would break into a space for human remains and defile and desecrate it with my presence,that's just me though,obviously,others may see things differently.I do see however,the Commonwealth is more aligned with my viewpoint and not our own Indiana Jones !
You people are pathetic. "

Mystress wrote on Jan 25, 2010 12:21 AM:

" oldgregg, for someone who is so keen on quoting the law, did you fail to read the following:

"...or knowingly aids in such disinterment, removal or conveying away, and whoever is accessory thereto either before or after the fact..."

Since you seem to have spent enough time with Ademan to know all about the "grave robbing, desecration" and other acts of depravity that have supposedly taken place here, does this mean you fall into that category?

Perhaps you should think before you speak. People in glass houses... "

oldgregg wrote on Jan 24, 2010 11:55 PM:

" Mass General Laws
PART IV. CRIMES, PUNISHMENTS AND PROCEEDINGSIN CRIMINAL CASES

TITLE I. CRIMES AND PUNISHMENTS

CHAPTER 272. CRIMES AGAINST CHASTITY, MORALITY, DECENCY AND GOOD ORDER

Chapter 272: Section 73. Tombs, graves, memorials, trees, plants; injuring, removing

Section 73. Whoever wilfully destroys, mutilates, defaces, injures or removes a tomb, monument, gravestone, veteran’s grave marker or metal plaque, veteran’s flag holder that commemorates a particular war, conflict or period of service or flag, or other structure or thing which is placed or designed for a memorial of the dead, or a fence railing, curb or other thing which is intended for the protection or ornament of a structure or thing before mentioned or of an enclosure for the burial of the dead, or wilfully removes, destroys, mutilates, cuts, breaks or injures a tree, shrub or plant placed or being within such enclosure, or wantonly or maliciously disturbs the contents of a tomb or a grave, shall be punished by imprisonment in the state prison for not more than five years or by imprisonment in the jail or house of correction for not more than two and one-half years and by a fine of not more than five thousand dollars. "

oldgregg wrote on Jan 24, 2010 11:52 PM:

" Mass General Laws
PART IV. CRIMES, PUNISHMENTS AND PROCEEDINGSIN CRIMINAL CASES

TITLE I. CRIMES AND PUNISHMENTS

CHAPTER 272. CRIMES AGAINST CHASTITY, MORALITY, DECENCY AND GOOD ORDER

Chapter 272: Section 71. Disinterring bodies

Section 71. Whoever, not being lawfully authorized by the proper authorities, wilfully digs up, disinters, removes or conveys away a human body, or the remains thereof, or knowingly aids in such disinterment, removal or conveying away, and whoever is accessory thereto either before or after the fact, shall be punished by imprisonment in the state prison for not more than three years or in jail for not more than two and one-half years or by a fine of not more than four thousand dollars "

Maggot3172 wrote on Jan 24, 2010 11:46 PM:

" And calling a police officer a 'hard a$$' is hardly a disrespectful term---most cops who pride themselves on their work would take 'hard a$$' as a complement. It kind of means they aren't slacking and are doing their job.

I guess he should have used a more sanitary, politically correct term to suit people's fragile feelings, but I think calling him on that remark is a weak attempt to sensationalize Ademan as a bad guy and paint him in a bad light. Weak. Really digging. "

Maggot3172 wrote on Jan 24, 2010 11:37 PM:

" See this for what it is, people. He's just taking pictures, not burglarizing or home-invading. Some of you make it sound like he's duping White House security, shaking hands with Obama, and Facebooking it. All they're doing is taking pictures of abandoned stuff---out of respect for history and a sense of adventure. Shall I suppose that some of you are such strict constructionists of the law and so politically correct and by-the-book that you fail to recognize or understand what a sense of adventure is? Following that logic, I'm sure all of you cynics posting in here never exceed 55 mph on the highway, too, right? Lighten up.

Give the guy a break. They're pictures of abandoned buildings. It's not like he's Nick Cage in "National Treasure", stealing the Declaration of Independence. "

ScawtHahshbahgah wrote on Jan 24, 2010 10:47 PM:

" Clearly, "respect" is foremost in Ryan's mind when he enters these temples to the past.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_b1GDKl9KRsI/SzDg_Buj_-I/AAAAAAAAGcQ/5_iW21U9nfQ/s1600/edit.jpg "

oldgregg wrote on Jan 24, 2010 10:34 PM:

" Listen to yourself,rationalizing,minimizing your behavior! What does it matter,well,how about this--when you fall through the floor and break your neck and spend the rest of your life in a wheelchair,who gets to support you after the money runs out from your frivolous lawsuit against the property owners for not properly securing the building. "

Ademan wrote on Jan 24, 2010 10:03 PM:

" And what will be found? photographs preserving these buildings and locations in time forever, so one day when they are gone I'll be able to look back and remember what was once? You seem to be stuck on the fact some of the locations I go to require minor trespassing. These aren't locations people are planning on reusing. These aren't people's homes they'll be coming back to for dinner. I'm not breaking into your grandmother's house while she's in bed. These buildings are forgotten, almost always previously vandalized, unwanted buildings others consider an eyesore. What I'm doing isn't murder. What I'm doing is causing no harm to you. Why is it you're so upset about this? "

oldgregg wrote on Jan 24, 2010 9:57 PM:

" I don't see anyone twisting anything here,and I would not be surprised if your premises,computers etc get some exploration soon,if I were dancing on the wrong side of the law, I would not post evidence on the web and do newspaper interviews with pics.Vanity is gonna do you in,good luck. "

Ademan wrote on Jan 24, 2010 9:49 PM:

" Anyone who read the article already knows we are aware this is an illegal hobby. No need for jobs, as we both work full-time. There's no one underage involved. While I did in fact state "some cops are hardasses", this was just a random line stated during an hour long interview with David Linton. He picked the quotes, but if you read the article, you'd also know I respect the police and know they are doing nothing more than their job.

to: Sunflower, jimmyah, and everyone else who appreciates the article for what it is, instead of twisting it to what you want, thank you. "

trish wrote on Jan 24, 2010 9:25 PM:

" Just a simple question... What does the law say about breaking and entering into an abandoned building?????? Forget having the thrill, taking photos, leaving our mark or preserving history! "

sunflower wrote on Jan 24, 2010 8:44 PM:

" I enjoyed this article. I'd love to explore the inside of abandoned property, but I'd be too chicken to enter. I think that's part of the allure. These people seem harmless, and they aren't harming the property or anyone else. "

oldgregg wrote on Jan 24, 2010 8:37 PM:

" Ahem , When I was this young mans age,I was in the military,not acting like a 14 year old. I knew trespass on someone's property was wrong and illegal,and would get mighty upset if I knew anyone was violating my property,whether I was actively using it or not !
Hey Ryan,how about I check out where you live? When are you not at home,How would you feel? I just want to look around, I wont mess with anything LOL "

jimmyahs wrote on Jan 24, 2010 8:28 PM:

" Oh s=plumb, you clown. Once again, if something is what you consider "abnormal" you rip them apart. I think these "urban explorers" are preserving what will some day be gone for good -- at least in photos. Who really cares that they are in an abadoned building. Man, what were you born in 1888??? splumb? Keep your morals to yourself. "

oldgregg wrote on Jan 24, 2010 8:10 PM:

" Your future roommates will be into tunnel exploring too-and you can keep your nickname-punkued "

been there wrote on Jan 24, 2010 7:10 PM:

" Let's have it you degenerated. Why not man-up. Oh that's right, you're a child.
Hopefully, tomorrow's headline will feature you again, exposing excuse the pun, who you really are. "

s-plumb wrote on Jan 24, 2010 6:50 PM:

" Someone's gonna reveal his name. May as well do it here. "

s-plumb wrote on Jan 24, 2010 6:43 PM:

" Great! Now that I've viewed this sick pic, do I have to report it? 23&24 y/o? I don't think so youngin's. These are just kids.
No wonder you refused to come out of the abandon school building in Boston until police threatened to send in the K-9 unit. You were putting your clothes on.
Pure art by solid citizens. Right... "

sinbad wrote on Jan 24, 2010 6:15 PM:

" ademan...are the photos you take posted on flickr website? I googled attleboro history once and came up with some photos of abandoned places in Attleboro. Did you post them? "

oldgregg wrote on Jan 24, 2010 6:04 PM:

" I have all the morgue pictures saved,you say you found the skull in a duffel bag? The squeaky clean white one underground with all the dingy,musty stuff,yeah,right. "

been there wrote on Jan 24, 2010 5:56 PM:

" jan: #1 It's illegal-hence the need for aliases #2 he calls policeman hard a** A term that not only degrades policeman, but has no place in the Sunday morning paper. Try using this term in a comment. #3 This is a snake-oil salesman with underage followers; #4 Check out the pic twnlocal posted
#5 THIS IS NOT NEWS. THIS IS A GROUP OF JERKS WHO ARE NOW STARS. The ONLY news worthy aspect is that they need to be incarsorated.
Do you really think this girlfriend is over the age of consent?
What do you find interesting, newsworthy, or normal/legal? "

Jan wrote on Jan 24, 2010 5:01 PM:

" What the heck is wrong with you, Beenthere?
I find this adventure to be quite intriguing and I am in my early 60s.
It's always interesting to get a different view on things and get a peek into the past. Aren't you ever curious as to what became of an old building where you spent some time? When I was a kid, I worked at Shields and now when I pass there it is an apartment/condo building. I'd love to go in there now, just to see the difference. It's just curiosity, which we all have. "

ScawtHahshbahgah wrote on Jan 24, 2010 4:56 PM:

" Get a job! You too, aNH. "

ScawtHahshbahgah wrote on Jan 24, 2010 4:56 PM:

" Get a job! Both of you. "

abandonedNH wrote on Jan 24, 2010 3:52 PM:

" Hey, no problem. It bothers me when people attack my friends, especially when the attacks are completely based on a skewed personal opinion and something that happened in the past (that, might I add, was the fault of the attacker and no one else).

You guys are good people, and I'll always think that. "

Ademan wrote on Jan 24, 2010 3:43 PM:

" Thank you ANH. Much love "

abandonedNH wrote on Jan 24, 2010 3:35 PM:

" First off, I want to commend David Linton for such a well-written article. It's not often that urban exploration gets covered in a positive light in the news. Explorers are often represented as vandals, dropouts, bums, etc. That's what the public wants to see us as, and the news generally caters to that image. However, Mr. Linton has written an article that portrays us in a factual light, and that's something that I'm sure explorers from all across Massachusetts and anywhere else would appreciate.

Secondly, kudos to Ademan and Cambria. I've explored with both of them and know for a fact that they are not vandals, terrorists, or anything of the sort. They're both wonderful, dedicated explorers and artists who care about the buildings they explore much akin to how a mother cares about her children. They would never do anything to destroy the integrity of a location. They have never stolen anything or disturbed anything from its final resting place. To all the naysayers that have read and commented on this article, I recommend getting your facts straight and keeping your personal issues to yourself before opening your mouth. "

Ademan wrote on Jan 24, 2010 3:00 PM:

" Like I said previously when you called me out on this, I did come across human remains in an open bag on one of my outings. I did photograph it, and left it where we found it. Nothing was taken. "

bobbarker80 wrote on Jan 24, 2010 1:52 PM:

" I'm sure, even you, were smart enough to remove the pictures of the human remains you stole from your site by now. But, lucky for you, and possibly the Attleboro police department if they're ever finished napping, I have in my possession "PrntScrn" images of the skull, in a duffel bag, from your pages. So have fun with that.. and prision, that should be a good time too. "

Maggot3172 wrote on Jan 24, 2010 1:49 PM:

" There's a difference between having an inclination or desire to explore something and being a jackass and spraying graffiti on it. I worked at Rocky Point in the late 80s when I was a kid and when it shut down, the same thing happened: Some people just wanted to explore the abandoned park, others saw it as a place to start fires and spray graffiti.

But curiosity is in all of us, nothing wrong with that. Feeling compelled to take photos to preserve history due to a respect for it is in fewer, which is why so many translate what Urban Explorers are doing as delinquent behavior.

Contemporary Americans believe that their modern conveniences and luxuries happened in a vacuum and devote little thought or regard to how life used to be. These Urban Explorers are simply trying to capture, through photography, how things used to be. It's historical preservation. It's a constructive hobby. Dismissing these people as vandals displays a shallow thought process.

I would urge caution and vigilance in their exploration, because you never know who or what you might run into an an abandoned building. Otherwise, they're harmless. "

Mr. Ducke wrote on Jan 24, 2010 1:36 PM:

" Nice article, Ryan!
As someone who does not know Ryan personally, yet has had some communication online with him over the years due to our common interest in local history, I would like to ask "been there" where his hostility is coming from. I laugh at your reference to grave digging, because in fact local cemeteries is an interest we share in common, and for many years Ryan was the only person who got out with a rake and tidied up around the forgotten Peck burial plot in Attleboro because of his respect for the past. "

been there wrote on Jan 24, 2010 1:28 PM:

" Why don't you just pick up grave-digging, call it art and get some free publicity?
You're nothing more than a weirdo, who happens to be a con artist. We had them in our generation too.
Next year when they evict 1/2 the city residents, perhaps you can break in the homes they cannot enter, and take pictures of what they left behind.
Even you must admit that this is not news.
You'll be behind bars soon enough. Where's Scoobie-doo when you need him? "

Ademan wrote on Jan 24, 2010 1:19 PM:

" Thanks Maggot. It's good to see at least a handful of people appreciating what we're doing. I've been looked at weird by almost every person who's found out about my hobby since the day I started it as a kid, so all these trolls on here aren't even bothering me. "

Maggot3172 wrote on Jan 24, 2010 1:12 PM:

" Ademan, I find your website informative and educational.

I found that I had an eye for similar things when I was deployed to Iraq.

Most notably: Sewer caps. They had Cyrillic writing on them. In western Anbar Province, the writing took the form of Oriental characters.

Saddam never trusted his own people when it came to public works projects. He hired outsiders like Yugoslavians (even though the country no longer exists) and North Koreans to build roads, bridges, and sewers for him.

And also jails, from what I understood. "

Ademan wrote on Jan 24, 2010 1:11 PM:

" While I respect your opinion Beenthere, you must understand the amount of respect in which we treat these buildings when we visit. It's not about the thrill of being where we're not supposed to be. It's a respect for you, who once worked there. places that founded our city and helped progress the industry of whatever kind of location we're visiting. Places that wont be there for future generations to see. "

been there wrote on Jan 24, 2010 1:06 PM:

" Ademan: The last time I saw a story like this was related to another illegal activity; graffiti. This is now art too, on the bridges in the city.
Are we who worked in these places, to bow to you because you have no sense of decency?
I'm not sure which is worse, your kind, or a society that allows you free reign. "

Ademan wrote on Jan 24, 2010 12:58 PM:

" Architecture now is nothing and never will be anything like it used to be. Buildings used to have personality, and are now just dull structures built to last 30 or so years before they know it will inevitably be flattened for a parking lot "

Maggot3172 wrote on Jan 24, 2010 12:52 PM:

" I also worked in Providence for a time and developed a fondness for the Depression-era architecture that's the trademark of many of the public schools in that city, as well as many others.

Any photos or comments about the 1930s---when FDR expanded the government and funded a lot of our public works, Ademan? "

Maggot3172 wrote on Jan 24, 2010 12:45 PM:

" Regarding an earlier post on Fort Wetherill in Jamestown, RI: The present-day structure housed magazines and 16-inch guns for coastal defense. The giant circular recesses in which people now play paintball and spray graffiti are all that is left of this chapter of Rhode Island World War II history.

On the subject of POW camps, Fort Getty, loactaed on the west coast of Jamestown, was the location of a German POW re-education camp during the later stages of World War II. A few concrete structures are all that remains of Getty now; It is used as an RV camp for vacationers now.

I am pretty sure that the Massachusetts Military Reservation in Bourne, also known as Otis Air Base and Camp Myles Standish, were used for similar purposes, however I could be wrong. New England's coastal World War II history on the homefront is a forgotten footnote of that era.

I love historical preservation, enjoyed the article also. Keep up the good work, "Ademan", just be careful. "

Ademan wrote on Jan 24, 2010 12:38 PM:

" There's a few minor relics if you know where to look, but they're hidden gems. "

sinbad wrote on Jan 24, 2010 12:26 PM:

" miles standish was a POW camp for germans and italian prisoners. any traces of that left over there? "

Ademan wrote on Jan 24, 2010 12:18 PM:

" I'm glad the article could help you bring back memories of your past. Abandoned Dreams, if you will. "

sinbad wrote on Jan 24, 2010 12:14 PM:

" Grew up on John St, in the 40's. r f simmons was a well kept building with manacured grounds, but they dumped all there waste in the river like all the shops did. the river was always a greenish-yellow and smelled awful, but people used to fish there and caught kivers only. "

Ademan wrote on Jan 24, 2010 12:09 PM:

" The Foster...Many memories there, but none of a kinky nature. Many local bands rented out rooms in a now demolished section of the building, and I went to many a practice there throughout my teen years. "

sinbad wrote on Jan 24, 2010 12:07 PM:

" did you ever explore the old union building where foster metals was, and where they were doing the bondage thing called Paddleboro? you could have got hung upside down and got your genitals put in a vice. very kinky. "

Ademan wrote on Jan 24, 2010 11:49 AM:

" New breed hippie, maybe. Chuck Manson's clique were followers. When was the last time you saw a story like this? "

been there wrote on Jan 24, 2010 11:18 AM:

" I was the w/e janitor at the union while in HS. Pretty cool seeing the old set-up where the actual stage was behind the screen.
These two are just privileged bums; a new breed of hippies.
In fact, in the 60's they'd be hanging with chuck manson.
Very newsworthy...front page stuff! Now we can put them behind bars. "

Ademan wrote on Jan 24, 2010 10:58 AM:

" I've wanted to see the inside of the Union Theater for a long time now. Does anyone know who to go about contacting for permission to photograph it? "

kevin goodwin wrote on Jan 24, 2010 10:29 AM:

" I certainly wish I had a camera back then! All the places we used to explore are gone. We also use to explore Jolly Chollys between the 2 owners then again in 1980 when they closed for good. And the big castle structure behind lasalette was a classic before it went up. It sat barely used or not used at all in the 80's--then they used it again, and it burned down. I miss that great structure.

You guys should see if you can get into union theater and see what is there. I loved the smell of all these old abandoned buildings. The heavy thick wood floors, the old metal radiators, life so much simpler and better back then. "

Ademan wrote on Jan 24, 2010 10:15 AM:

" kevin goodwin's comment is exactly one of the reasons we do what we do. a way for people to remember these locations once they're lost and gone. "

kevin goodwin wrote on Jan 24, 2010 10:10 AM:

" Great job guys. I thoroughly enjoyed looking at your pictures and reading your stories. When I was younger, we use to explore a couple closed jewelery factories, bliss school, the bowling alley on oneil blvd, and the car wash place that used to be where waste management is now--anybody remember that car wash? "

joshabcd wrote on Jan 24, 2010 10:09 AM:

" **Updated with less typos**
I used to do the same thing all of the time. Never knew there was an official name for it though. You guys should check out the tunnels at Fort Witherel in Jamestown. It was never a factory, but the tunnels are fun to explore anyway. Bring water proof boots and keep on the lookout for random pits that you can fall into. Great view from the roof of the place as well. "

Ademan wrote on Jan 24, 2010 10:08 AM:

" We've done numerous Jamestown forts "

joshabcd wrote on Jan 24, 2010 10:06 AM:

" I used to do the same thing all the time. Necer knew there was an official name for it. You guys should check out the tunnels at Fort Witherel in Jamestown. It was never a factory, but they are fun to explore. Bring water prof boots and keep on the lookout for random pits that you fall into. Great view from the roof of the place as well. "

Jan wrote on Jan 24, 2010 10:04 AM:

" It sounds like fun. I also love to take many varied pictures of things that we sometimes just pass by without noticing.
He will have very interesting stories to tell his children and grandchildren some day! "

Ademan wrote on Jan 24, 2010 9:49 AM:

" Thank you Realist. It's good to see someone understands. "

realist wrote on Jan 24, 2010 9:46 AM:

" While I don't advocate trespassing and if anything goes wrong others would have to risk their lives to help, these folks may be doing us a service. Photographs to remind us that at one times buildings and infrastructure were built to last and not just endure a 25 year amortization period help us to realize how even an practical building such as a factory was a work of art and craftsmanship. "

Ademan wrote on Jan 24, 2010 9:28 AM:

" You saw these posts where? "

oldgregg wrote on Jan 24, 2010 9:17 AM:

" LOL.yeah, I am a sicko alright,but I have never violated a corpse like these folks have,I was liking this is interesting until I viewed his pics on the web,breaking in to a tomb and messing with the bodies is over the top,well Karma is a powerful thing ! "

nocovercharge wrote on Jan 24, 2010 9:05 AM:

" Why is it that some of you have to be so negative?
Never anything nice to say.
Like sickos with a keyboard, ready to attack.
I enjoyed the article. It's nice to have a hobby. Might be nice for you debbie downers to get one. "

getreal wrote on Jan 24, 2010 8:59 AM:

" This article reads like a PSA on why it's important to stay in school. "

radar57 wrote on Jan 24, 2010 7:58 AM:

" He needs to explore Bristol County House Of Correction maybe! 6 month county vacation is needed before he hurts himself or those looking for him!! "

tahraann wrote on Jan 24, 2010 7:31 AM:

" that sounds like alot of fun. "

lawvic wrote on Jan 24, 2010 7:24 AM:

" We used to explore and hang out in the abandoned Dante jewelry factory building on Maynard St. back in the early and mid-1980's. You were too young then Ademan. It was extremely vandalized- all windows were smashed, fires set inside, graffiti, and water damage. Around 1989 or 1990 it was renovated into an apartment complex. "

nannystate wrote on Jan 24, 2010 6:08 AM:

" The old foxboro hospital was a grand walk through the warehousing era of those less fortunate and lost "

bobbarker80 wrote on Jan 24, 2010 6:07 AM:

" Ohhh, yeah. And how did you find this skull exactly? Was it on a street corner begging for a cheeseburger?... or did you happen to lower yourself down a rope into a tomb? How odd that you would randomly discover a skull, in a tomb...
Also, I know for a fact you did take it, but go ahead and stick to your story. "

Ademan wrote on Jan 24, 2010 5:46 AM:

" Completely untrue. While we did find a human skull, it remained exactly where we found it undisturbed. "

bobbarker80 wrote on Jan 24, 2010 5:40 AM:

" So you just take pictures? That's strange, because I vaguely remember a photo of a human skull that you stole from a cemetary a while ago. Were you just "appreciating the history" of a human being that was resting peacefully in a tomb, from the comfort of your own home? Because I'm pretty sure that's ridiculously illegal. "

Ademan wrote on Jan 24, 2010 3:58 AM:

" Our name is rarely written in anything permanant, and on the rare occasion we do leave our names, it's on a chalkboard, or written in dust with our fingers "

oldgregg wrote on Jan 24, 2010 3:50 AM:

" Hmmm..not a vandal,but your tag is all over the place in your pics. "

Ademan wrote on Jan 24, 2010 3:42 AM:

" Just wanted to thank both David Linton for a wonderfully written article and Mike George for braving the cold to photograph us for the article. You guys are great. "