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Posted: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 12:00 am | Updated: 1:41 pm, Thu Sep 29, 2011.

ATTLEBORO - A 74-year-old blind woman has been told a lien will be put on her South Attleboro home if she doesn't come up with a penny she owes on an outstanding utility bill.

Eileen Wilbur, of Glenn Street, said she discovered the notice of the potential lien after her daughter, Rose Brederson, came over to read her mail.

"It's so upsetting," Wilbur said. "It sent my blood pressure up so high."

The city sent Wilbur a letter dated Nov. 10 stating that if the 1 cent balance is not paid by Dec. 10, the city will assess a lien of up to $48 on Wilbur's next property tax bill.

"They wasted taxpayer money on the letter," Wilbur said, noting the 42-cent charge for a stamp.

City Collector Debora Marcoccio said the bill was sent out along with more than 2,000 others as the city tries to recoup outstanding balances before resorting to putting liens on property.

A computer automatically printed the letters for any account with a balance remaining, and they were not reviewed by staff before being sent out, Marcoccio said.

"It would be fiscally irresponsible for me to have staff weed through the bills and pull out any below a certain amount," Marcoccio said. " And what would that amount be?"

According to the letter, the outstanding balance stems from a water and sewer bill from fiscal year 2008, which ran from July 2007 to July 2008.

Marcoccio said that before lien notices are sent out, the city sends out bills for the outstanding balance.

"My question is, how come it wasn't paid when the bills went out?" she said.

In the meantime, the city is holding firm on the amount due.

Marcoccio, who called the whole situation "ridiculous," said the city will not waive the balance.

"If there's a bill, it must be paid," she said.

Brederson said her mother was very upset by the situation, but will likely end up paying the penny to avoid having the cost rise.

"The whole thing is absolutely ridiculous," she said.

MATT KAKLEY can be reached at 508-236-0333 or at mkakley@thesunchronicle.com.

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138 comments:

  • anonymous posted at 12:31 am on Thu, Nov 20, 2008.

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    WELL..... It COULD be worse, hopefully the city isn't like the utility companies, "Umm we're sorry ma'am, but because you didn't pay your entire bill when it was do, now we require a $100.00 security deposit in case you ever fail to pay your bill."hahahahaha

     
  • anonymous posted at 4:09 pm on Wed, Nov 19, 2008.

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    As silly as this entire situation sounds, I can under the water utiltiy wanting to be paid the penny. Where do you draw the line on how much the water utility can ignore, one cent, two cents maybe 3 cents? When you add up a few thousands people who might owe a penny or two it does add up. As chintzy as it may sound the water utility is correct, however, to threaten to put a lien on her house is going to far.Spending 42 cents on a stamp in order to collect 1 cent is outrageous. What they ought to do is add the 1 penny on to her next bill, with a statement of explanation. This could save thousands of tax payers dollars.

     
  • grolsch6673yahoocom posted at 2:30 pm on Wed, Nov 19, 2008.

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    For the love of God - lets just hope the check the former councilor wrote as payment doesn't bounce or we could see this silly little non-story grace our paper once again!

     
  • anonymous posted at 9:41 am on Wed, Nov 19, 2008.

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    I know!! Right? They must be very hard up for excitement in their lives to search the internet for stories in cities and towns they know nothing about. Although I think its more about bringing themselves up by trying to bring others down. It could be their only source of contentmentpoor things.

     
  • anonymous posted at 8:47 am on Wed, Nov 19, 2008.

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    offended - could you imagine what type of person searches the national news to find a silly little story like this, and then spends time posting on the local website of the City in the story? You have to question who the idiots are here?

     
  • anonymous posted at 7:47 am on Wed, Nov 19, 2008.

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    This blog has always been a great way to debate differences without throwing juvenile insults....Unfortunately the newcomers from across the country see it differently and think it's clever to call us 'idiots', 'uneducated', "inbred", "stupid", calling our CITY a 'backwater dorp', a 'cesspool' and so on. You're SO not clever but I'm sure it makes you feel superior to continue. I can't wait until you all move on to victimize the next newsworthy community with your rants. Do you always spread such hate whenever you stop by?

     
  • anonymous posted at 7:30 am on Wed, Nov 19, 2008.

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    The Mayor or the city council should change the name of their little town from ATTLEBORO to POTTERSVILLE! It would be more appropriate considering the reaction of the citizens there now that this story as hit the AP wire and is being reported worldwide.

     
  • anonymous posted at 5:24 am on Wed, Nov 19, 2008.

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    splumb wrote on Nov 19, 2008 9:51 AM:" Where's George Bailey when you need him? "If George reads the comments from some of the regular posters on this website, he probably jumped off the bridge.

     
  • anonymous posted at 3:51 am on Wed, Nov 19, 2008.

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    Where's George Bailey when you need him?

     
  • anonymous posted at 2:40 am on Wed, Nov 19, 2008.

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    Wow, what a bunch of uneducated idiots is right - I've just read all of their responses to this story!All of you should know the facts behind the entire process - oh that's right the SC doesn't want you to know that. Kirby sends out a rookie to cover a "non-story" and it turns out that he ends up using it as front page fodder. What he didn't do is have his intrepid reporter research the facts of the case. What date was the bill actually from? How many previous notices were sent? What is the procedure for placing utility bills on someones tax bill? Is $48 a flat fee or is that the highest amount that can be charged? What did previous Collectors do in this case?Doug stated:"since our present tax collector has been running the office you at least get a smile when you pay your bill." I'll take the last guy, at least he told you as it was.

     
  • anonymous posted at 1:40 am on Wed, Nov 19, 2008.

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    I looked at you city's website. The Mayor's name is Dumas. I lol'ed.

     
  • anonymous posted at 1:38 am on Wed, Nov 19, 2008.

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    I would expect no less from the People's Republic of Mass.

     
  • anonymous posted at 12:46 am on Wed, Nov 19, 2008.

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    Ok, now I'm SURE I won't be stopping to spend any money in Attleboro during any of my monthly trips to Massachussetts. I've never heard of someone so darn anal in my life. You deserve who YOU elect up there kids. Be sure to remember her and her party in the next elections.

     
  • anonymous posted at 12:15 am on Wed, Nov 19, 2008.

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    We have a crooked city solicitor, and an out of control Housing Authority. The combination has costs the city $4.3 million. Have Mr. Milinoski pay the penny (anonomously!)

     
  • anonymous posted at 8:19 pm on Tue, Nov 18, 2008.

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    Sad that even blind white Americans risk losing their homes for not keeping up with their bills, but our treasonous leaders continue flooding our country with non-white invaders that immediately go on welfare.

     
  • anonymous posted at 5:14 pm on Tue, Nov 18, 2008.

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    mwrightgrdx - what would cost more, upgrading the system, which would include bringing in a team to handle the upgrade, or just keeping the current system and eating 41 cents every 1 out of 70,000 bills they send out?

     
  • anonymous posted at 5:01 pm on Tue, Nov 18, 2008.

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    This is what happens when bureaucrats are in charge of the government...waste and inefficiency. Spend 48 cents or more of taxpayers money to collect a penny and the collector can't figure out where to draw the line and she is a collector. Wow. No wonder governments run at a deficit when they spend more money collecting, then what they take in.What so upsetting is the lack of compassion and common sense in the comments concerning a women who has been paying on the property for close to 50 years. However, when the government wastefully spend taxpayers dollars, it's usually shrugged off with a comment, oh well. What I really like to know is why don't people complain when it really matters such as a recent disclosure that the Pentagon paid a small South Carolina company run by twin sisters nearly $1 million to ship two 19-cent washers to an Army base in Texas?

     
  • anonymous posted at 3:40 pm on Tue, Nov 18, 2008.

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    good point whocares247. I'll just short change the city $0.47 every time. Then it would never be justified to send me a bill,and if they did, I'd just call the SC. "Good-golly" that sounds like a win for me.

     
  • anonymous posted at 3:36 pm on Tue, Nov 18, 2008.

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    Wilbur is a publicity-seeking deadbeat. Pay your bill next time!

     
  • anonymous posted at 3:13 pm on Tue, Nov 18, 2008.

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    I love Mass., having run the Boston marathon twice and vacationed on the cape and islands for many summers. Having said that....wow! what an ugly, ugly picture of humanity your city reveals. The quotes from Marcocchio remind me of no one so much as Ebenezer Scrooge! Defensive, self-righteous, haughty, ungracious, dismissive; and the most amazing thing is many of your town's citizens join in here to condemn the blind lady for bringing this to light. You stiff necked pharisees who are whipped up into a fury because this blind women has challenged the city's fiscally stupid and graceless act of billing her 1 cent need to take a walk around the block , look up at the stars, take a deep breath and realize that your very existence is a gift that you didn't and couldn't have earned. Have some humility and gratitude and maybe you will look at others differently.

     
  • anonymous posted at 2:34 pm on Tue, Nov 18, 2008.

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    Couldn't resit, I sent in a check for 1 cent. LOL. Election is next year! Agreed that the amount under the cost to mail aletter should go onto the next bill. Hello Attleboro! BTW, how is our ARA. Is Foxboro now building a park. Bet it doesn't take them 30 years. I may run for Collector next year. Bar isn't set to high. LOL>

     
  • anonymous posted at 2:18 pm on Tue, Nov 18, 2008.

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    I have to agree with offended that no on in the City singled out Mrs. Wilbur for a letter because she is elderly and blind. She received a FORM LETTER sent out because she owed money, regardless of the amount. She has until Dec. 12 to pay the amount due, with no penalty. Its not like they had put her house up for auction and thrown her in the street for a penny. If she had called the Collector, or the Mayors Office or her Councilor, I am sure one of them would have taken care of the problem, and perhaps looked into fixing an obvious problem with the billing software. Instead, she called the SC, which decided to make it a front page story and create a tempest in a teapot. The SC really needs to look at their priorities. As to plaasjaapie and Baddog, pray what earthly paradise that never makes mistakes do YOU live in

     
  • anonymous posted at 2:06 pm on Tue, Nov 18, 2008.

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    I think they need to overhaul the mainframe of the computer system. You know; anything under a quarter just gets deleted. Come on, the City Workers blaming it on the computer. That is the saddest excuse I have heard in a long time. They should just suck it up, and let the nice lady have the penny; don't you think? That is what I would do if I was in the accounting department.

     
  • anonymous posted at 2:00 pm on Tue, Nov 18, 2008.

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    I propose that every single person who commented here send the city a check made out for $0.01. That will confuse the city idiots, the bank, everyone. The fools could have avoided this if they could only figure out how to set their computers to question all bills for less than, say, $1.00, before printing.

     
  • anonymous posted at 1:53 pm on Tue, Nov 18, 2008.

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    As someone who spent 5 years working on software that sent out 30,000 letters like this a month, I can answer City Collector Debora Marcoccio's question about what what amount to use as a cutoff for sending out letters. You use the cost of sending out the letter AND processing the extra payment as the cutoff or, if you want to MAKE money, you could add a dollar to that. So, sending out the letter costs at least a dollar and processing the payment might cost a buck or two. So $5.00 seems reasonable. BUT EVEN IF YOU DON'T SEND OUT A SPECIAL BILL AND PROCESS A SPECIAL PAYMENT, YOU DON'T FORGIVE THE AMOUNT; YOU PUT IT ON THE NEXT BILL. If someone owes $50 dollars and has for six months, that's different. It sounds like Ms. Marcoccio spent $2000 dollars to send out these bills. How many were for less than $5? If 10% were, she could have saved $200 dollars and collected the money next month. It would have saved on good will too. Is Ms. Marcoccio elected? When's the election? Personally, I'd expect to owe someone at least $100 dollars before they started threatening me....

     
  • anonymous posted at 1:20 pm on Tue, Nov 18, 2008.

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    Madking, the city did NOT "squeeze an old blind lady for a penny." Do you think it said 'OLD BLIND LADY' on her bill? I'm sure she's a lovely lady and yes, Sam Adams fan, if I were her neighbor I'd help her every chance I get. My point is IT'S ONLY A PENNY. The City did not do this on purpose....leave Sam Adams out of this and any other Mass. reference you care to use that makes you feel smarter than the rest of us. I find you arrogant. It's a da_n penny....why couldn't she just pay it. NO ONE was trying to make her a victim on purpose.

     
  • anonymous posted at 12:52 pm on Tue, Nov 18, 2008.

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    mytwocents----You are missing the entire point. A stamp is .48 or something right? So you are saying, if everyone short changes the city by one penny, the collector should send out a bill..right? I'm no mathmetician, but good golly that doesn't seem like a sound business plan. think you might lose some money.

     
  • anonymous posted at 12:44 pm on Tue, Nov 18, 2008.

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    I personally would have thought it was funny and just mailed them their stupid penny. But the woman has a point.The system should be set up to automatically disregard anything less than what it would cost to print and mail a letter. This doesn't require "staff as the a$$hole collector stated. It if can automatically print, it can automatically exclude anything under a $1. She is just wasting tax payer money. I would like to investigate some of her other practices that she is using my money for. And what in gods name does it matter if she's blind???

     
  • anonymous posted at 12:40 pm on Tue, Nov 18, 2008.

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    one time i had a bill for a penny to at&t, i called them and told them that it would cost me more to send a stamp than it would to send my bill and asked if i could have it added to my next bill, they just deleted the penny because they are not stingy idiots. That was not Obamas Fault. Obama had nothing to do with my bill. If he did i'm sure i would have been screwed so far up my rumpkis!!!

     
  • anonymous posted at 12:37 pm on Tue, Nov 18, 2008.

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    ITS ALL OBAMAS FAULT!!!!!!

     
  • anonymous posted at 12:28 pm on Tue, Nov 18, 2008.

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    Would have just paid the penny myself. I was just offened by the coldness of the Collector. being right isn't always "being right". Someday someone will be right and she will be on the wrong end of the stick. Ever see those little penny piles at a store...yep..have a penny neighbor. We are not dealing with a credit card company with a call center in India, we are talking about the person who lives IN ATTL EBORO, who WE ELECTED!! Maybe next years election will bring forth a friendlier face to the office of Collector........

     
  • anonymous posted at 12:23 pm on Tue, Nov 18, 2008.

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    get a hold of the largest currency possible ($500 or $1000) ... go down to city hall and pay in cash. they are probable not able to handle such a large bill - haha

     
  • anonymous posted at 11:56 am on Tue, Nov 18, 2008.

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    deimonte38, she more likely wrote a check out for the wrong amount on a past bill. The outstanding balance got lumped in with every other overdue account and got sent threatening letters. Myself, I would have walked up to the collectors office with a smile and a shinny penny.

     
  • anonymous posted at 11:54 am on Tue, Nov 18, 2008.

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    offended, what could be more rude and insulting than squeezing an old blind woman for a penny and then justifying it in very cold terms?You want REAL rude and insulting? Try contesting a sham city ordinance you know is illegal (as has since been ruled such) at Somerville City Hall. You'll be reaching for an RPG.Try getting a screwup that has nothing to do with you out of the MA DMV. I've tried for 18 years with no success. Try contesting a parking ticket at Boston City Hall after a sewer cover sticking a foot out of the ground with no warning markers caused $1500 in damage to your front end and forced you to park in front of the South Station Post Office because you couldn't drive any further. No parking zone, don't you know. Try moving to another state and then six years later getting a four-figure MA state tax bill that doubled over that time in fees and penalties, even though the state knew where you were the whole time because of UE claims and previous tax return filings. It's enough to make you want to join Al Qaeda. After due consideration, I moved to NH instead. But if AQ ever wants to attack MA government offices, I'm there. I know who the good guys are in that instance.

     
  • anonymous posted at 11:45 am on Tue, Nov 18, 2008.

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    offended, what could be more rude and insulting than squeezing an old blind woman for a penny and then justifying it in very cold terms?You want REAL rude and insulting? Try contesting a sham city ordinance you know is illegal (as has since been ruled such) at Somerville City Hall. You'll be reaching for an RPG.Try getting a screwup that has nothing to do with you out of the MA DMV. I've tried for 18 years with no success. Try contesting a parking ticket at Boston City Hall after a sewer cover sticking a foot out of the ground with no warning markers caused $1500 in damage to your front end and forced you to park in front of the South Station Post Office because you couldn't drive any further. No parking zone, don't you know. Try moving to another state and then getting a four-figure MA state tax bill that doubled over that time in fees and penalties, even though the state knew where you were the whole time because of UE claims and previous tax return filings. It's enough to make you want to join Al Qaeda. After due consideration, I moved to NH instead. But if AQ ever wants to attack MA government offices, I'm there. I know who the good guys are in that instance.

     
  • anonymous posted at 11:38 am on Tue, Nov 18, 2008.

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    offended - note the words of this woman's fellow citizens on this page stating that this is all on her. I'd agree that many people from Mass are quite rude. I sure would hate to be an senior citizen with handicaps living in Mass. You'll get little help from your neighbors if this article is any indicator.Sam Adams is spinning in his grave!

     
  • anonymous posted at 11:27 am on Tue, Nov 18, 2008.

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    Is everyone from outside of Massachusetts this rude and insulting? And people say New Englanders are unfriendly?? Wow.

     
  • anonymous posted at 11:24 am on Tue, Nov 18, 2008.

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    mytwocents, thank you for demonstrating why I said what I did about evil government loving lunatics in Mass. Sam Adams is rolling over in his grave. You must have one of King George's bureaucratic butt wipers in your family tree.

     
  • anonymous posted at 11:22 am on Tue, Nov 18, 2008.

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    Move over "JOE THE PLUMBER" here comes "EILEEN THE PENNY PINCHER!"

     
  • anonymous posted at 11:20 am on Tue, Nov 18, 2008.

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    This is why I don't live in MA anymore. I've endured bureaucratic nightmares that would have Orwell's hair standing on end. Example: in 1990, when I returned from Florida, there was a hold on my driver's license renewal because of an offense someone else with the same name committed in FLA. I had to go through three offices in the Boston DMV before the issue was resolved and I was finally allowed to renew my license. It was an all-day nightmare.Guess what? It was never resolved. In 2002 and 2007, NH DMV twice held up my license renewal. Why? Because there was an outstanding issue from MA going back to 1990 regarding a FL driver with the same name as mine. Go figure, huh?18 years that mistake has been in the system, and I can't get it out, even though they told me it was a done deal.And that's just scratching the surface.If this woman is smart, she'll pay her penny and get the hell out of the system before it crushes her. There's a lot I like about MA, but the governments REALLY suck! They'll squeeze a blind woman for a penny, but have absolutely no problem shelling out welfare and Medicaid to 30,000-plus illegals. MA residents, they're all yours. You can have them. You made your beds by voting them in, you can lie in 'em.

     
  • anonymous posted at 11:16 am on Tue, Nov 18, 2008.

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    I must be missing something. The lady owes one penny, so pay the penny and move on. As people have already mentioned, if everybody short changed their bill one penny, it would add up to a significant amount. People would then complain that the city doesn't collect their debts. What an ignorant woman for not paying the full amount when she received the bill. Who is she to think that someone else should pay for the difference, or it should be allowed to slide by, or it should be rolled over? Why does she think she deserves special treatment because she failed to pay the proper amount? The city is doing its job in my opinion.

     
  • anonymous posted at 11:14 am on Tue, Nov 18, 2008.

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    JiminFlA -"Moved to Florida 4 years ago. No income tax. Cost 371.00 to insure car. Best thing I ever did ever. How many people left Mass last year? I wonder why.PS Temp today 79 at 3pm. Shot a 72 in golf. "86F here in Arizona. Very smart people move AWAY from big government, and fight to keep it small.The big question is, what took you so long to leave that cesspool behind? ;-)

     
  • anonymous posted at 11:13 am on Tue, Nov 18, 2008.

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    What bothers me is the arrogence of Marcoccio. The woman is blind and may have with her bad eye sight read the number wrong. it would get anyone upset to get a bill saying they are going to have a lien put on their property. The woman thought she paid her bill.What goes around comes around, and maybe someday Marcoccio will have someone treat her with such disrespect. When that day happens I hope she remembers how coldly she treated this woman.It all could have been handled much better. Even Comcast the almighty will tack on a small amount if you don't pay the correct amount....bet the woman has always piad her bills too.

     
  • anonymous posted at 11:11 am on Tue, Nov 18, 2008.

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    Moved to Florida 4 years ago. No income tax. Cost 371.00 to insure car. Best thing I ever did ever. How many people left Mass last year? I wonder why.PS Temp today 79 at 3pm. Shot a 72 in golf.

     
  • anonymous posted at 11:00 am on Tue, Nov 18, 2008.

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    Dang! I wish the $500 bill was still in circulation!I'd march into the billing office with my biiling statement and pluck down the $500 and let them flail to make change...what arrogant a$$holes!

     
  • anonymous posted at 10:49 am on Tue, Nov 18, 2008.

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    Get this folks! She is on the news at 5 on channel 4. UNBELIEVABLE! What will be her next move?????

     
  • anonymous posted at 10:48 am on Tue, Nov 18, 2008.

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    what a joke! to expect someone to pay a $.01 cent bill and say "It would be fiscally irresponsible for me to have staff weed through the bills and pull out any below a certain amount," - obviously your computer software isn't any good that it won't allow you to exclude below a certain amount. It's common sense to say that sending out a bill for a penny is stupid and say 'we screwed up' - gee I'm glad I don't live there

     
  • anonymous posted at 10:37 am on Tue, Nov 18, 2008.

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    Which comments are you referring to Guilden_NL?

     
  • anonymous posted at 10:31 am on Tue, Nov 18, 2008.

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    Hmm, I would simply write a check for 1 and 1/2 cents and see what happens. Also, I would say to everybody in town to send in thier next bill mins a penny just so that the town has to spend 42 cents to collect 1 cent. Maybe then they would simply roll it over to the next billing cycle.

     
  • anonymous posted at 10:28 am on Tue, Nov 18, 2008.

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    With some of these comments, one couldn't realize that Massachusetts citizens once fought evil government and rampant taxation, thereby creating a great nation. That the lien went out was bad enough, but typical poor quality from government. But the collector's attitude rivals that of King George' minions. The city should sack her, as well as her supervisor to get the message out that city employees work for the people, not the other way around.I couldn't live in the East with people represented here living around me. Have your evil government and live with the resulting Karma. Thankfully there are those who will still fight back tyranny! Sam Adams, the masses of arses in Mass need your wisdom!

     
  • anonymous posted at 10:22 am on Tue, Nov 18, 2008.

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    "jose21 wrote on Nov 18, 2008 4:19 PM:" I wonder how many previous bills she recieved asking her to pay? "Lordy! All this instead of simply rolling over the amount due and adding it to the next utility bill. A stunned duckling could have figure that one out.

     
  • anonymous posted at 10:19 am on Tue, Nov 18, 2008.

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    I wonder how many previous bills she recieved asking her to pay?

     
  • anonymous posted at 10:19 am on Tue, Nov 18, 2008.

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    :) Beautiful job Proud!! Guess who's ROTFLMAO now?

     
  • anonymous posted at 10:16 am on Tue, Nov 18, 2008.

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    I seem to remember Mrs. Marcoccio's campaign slogan,"I will collect and account for every cent." Isn't that why the people of Attleboro voted for her? They wanted someone who they trusted and who would balance the books right down to the last " penny." I think big government should follow her lead. It wasn't too long ago, Mrs. Marcoccio uncovered a city employee(in her own department) stealing tax payers money and reported it and recouped the money. How soon people forget. If Mrs. Wilber had paid" all" of her bill, she wouldn't of been in the computer. No matter the amount!!!!

     
  • anonymous posted at 10:02 am on Tue, Nov 18, 2008.

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    proud wrote on Nov 18, 2008 3:58 PM:"If Mrs. Wilber had paid" all" of her taxes, she wouldn't of been in the computer. No matter the amount!!!! "I've never heard anywhere of a utility bill being considered to be a tax. Things appear to be VERY different when one enters the alternate universe of Attleboro, though.

     
  • anonymous posted at 9:58 am on Tue, Nov 18, 2008.

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    I seem to remember Mrs. Marcoccio's campaign slogan,"I will collect and account for every cent." Isn't that why the people of Attleboro voted for her? They wanted someone who they trusted and who would balance the books right down to the last " penny." I think big government should follow her lead. It wasn't too long ago, Mrs. Marcoccio uncovered a city employee(in her own department) stealing tax payers money and reported it and recouped the money. How soon people forget. If Mrs. Wilber had paid" all" of her taxes, she wouldn't of been in the computer. No matter the amount!!!!

     
  • anonymous posted at 9:34 am on Tue, Nov 18, 2008.

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    "offended wrote on Nov 18, 2008 3:27 PM:" I don't know what ROTFLMAO is.""Haven't heard of Google, either, I suspect. :-p

     
  • anonymous posted at 9:34 am on Tue, Nov 18, 2008.

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    You're right....I'm a little too bored today and should be doing better things with my time. I am trying to defend the people at City Hall for doing their job against people calling them 'gay', and saying things like their 'orifices should be proded'. I do take big offense to the assault on a City I love (and others calling it a backwater prod) because of a crazy person that decided to be front page news over a penny. I do, however, agree that I've spent too much time here and I am getting too fired up. Thanks for the reality slap!

     
  • anonymous posted at 9:31 am on Tue, Nov 18, 2008.

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    "offended wrote on Nov 18, 2008 3:11 PM:Don't you people understand the bill was system generated???????? "I bet you tried the "the dog ate my homework" gambit when you were in K-12, probably more than once. Ultimately, people create the systems and the how the systems perform are a valid reflection of the people who created them.

     
  • anonymous posted at 9:30 am on Tue, Nov 18, 2008.

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    She should mail in a check for 2 cents. The extra amount needing to be refunded might throw the entire bureaucracy into chaos.

     
  • anonymous posted at 9:27 am on Tue, Nov 18, 2008.

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    I don't know what ROTFLMAO is.Attleboro is not a small town. Attleboro is a City to be proud of full of history, industry, parks, zoos, museums, caring and EDUCATED people and more. We are not inbred and stupid. The only ridiculous thing about this entire story is a woman complaining about paying a penny. I bet if she were nice when she first called City Hall on their glitch the person on the other end of the phone would have chuckled and paid the penny for her at that moment. Something tells me anyone that would call the newspaper about a billing glitch could be a major whack job and the type of person our lovely City can do without.

     
  • anonymous posted at 9:26 am on Tue, Nov 18, 2008.

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    person whos name is 'offended'..ur the one making a big deal about this posting like 100 comments YOU GET A LIFE bye

     
  • anonymous posted at 9:23 am on Tue, Nov 18, 2008.

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    Since Attleboro is so hard up for pennies, Mrs. Wilbur should convert the paper cash for her next water bill to pennies and send the payment in that way.I don't see why any bill less than $.50 couldn't just be rolled over to the next bill. How silly.

     
  • anonymous posted at 9:17 am on Tue, Nov 18, 2008.

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    offended wrote on Nov 18, 2008 2:48 PM:Before you accuse people of having brain damage, try to write at least one sentence without 20 spelling errors in it.ROTFLMAO! Can't count can you? Listen, it's the age of the internet. It used to be that a small town like yours could get comfortably inbred and stupid like yours obviously is and continence all kinds of bizarre behaviour from it's citizenry because word of such ridiculousness likely wouldn't make it past the next town. These days, however, the whole world reads your newspaper.How do you think this story goes over to the team putting together a high-tech startup that's looking for a sane, stable place to locate? You're very well located for that sort of thing, mind. Who in their right mind would voluntarily subject themselves to the kind of nonsense that this story describes?

     
  • anonymous posted at 9:12 am on Tue, Nov 18, 2008.

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    as someone pointed out below...the cost of upgrading software to call out underpayments of pennies would far exceed the cost of a few stamps to send the bills the few times this happens. How many people balance their own checkbooks down to the penny. I know a lot of people that do and that seems ok....yet the City is faulted for pretty much the same thing?? There is only one point here....it was a ridiculous bill but to balance the sheets it had to be paid. NO ONE would have put a lien on her house over a penny. Don't you people understand the bill was system generated????????

     
  • anonymous posted at 9:11 am on Tue, Nov 18, 2008.

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    plaasjaapie wrote:"In in rationally organised town if you overpay or underpay your utility bills the outstanding balance is carried over to your next month's bill."HAHAHAHA, you don't know Attleboro!!!ps Mrs Wilbur, Are you going to declare all the pennies you recieve as unearned incomce on you tax return?Stirring the pot for the sake of it!!!! hehehe

     
  • anonymous posted at 9:09 am on Tue, Nov 18, 2008.

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    ok wow all you other people who commented this are real stupid obviously shes going to pay it but its just that how stupid the town is that they want one whole cent like seriously get a house lien for that? how gay

     
  • anonymous posted at 9:05 am on Tue, Nov 18, 2008.

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    I wonder, did Mrs. Wilbur pay by check? Does she have copies of the bills? Perhaps the problem is with the city and keying in the wrong amount. I paid a bill and the company added an extra zero to the amount. This made a several thousand dollar difference and the company said it would take them 6 - 8 weeks to refund the amount, with no interest. I went to the bank and they fixed the problem immediately. There is a reason to keep your bills and copies of checks.

     
  • anonymous posted at 9:02 am on Tue, Nov 18, 2008.

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    Wow, this is the first time I have heard of your town and after reading the comments I am surprised at how many of you are angry at Wilbur for making a mistake. I just hope someone makes certain the city writes Ms. Wilbur a check once it receives all the pennies from people who read this story. I read it thinking it would be a cute story that had an ending where the city apologized and dropped the matter, needless to say I was shocked by Maroccio's attitude. I hope the people of Attleboro realize how unflattering this is for their town and will put pressure on her to apologize. She acts as if this taxpayer intentionally left off one penny and even if she did is it really worth spending over 4000% of the debt in order to collect it. This is everything that is wrong with our government. Glad it is your city and not mine.

     
  • anonymous posted at 8:49 am on Tue, Nov 18, 2008.

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    I think many posters are missing the point. Whats outrageous about this, and what makes this news, is not that a $0.01 bill was sent to a poor blind woman', it is the fact that the city would spend more money on postage than the amount of the bill, and also City Collector Debora Marcoccios appalling dim-witted response, "It would be fiscally irresponsible for me to have staff weed through the bills and pull out any below a certain amount." No kidding It was fiscally irresponsible to print the bill in the first place. And the fact that Marcoccios was so petty and obstinate in refusing to waive the bill that she has now made the city of Attleboro a nationwide laughing stock, just adds fuel to fire.

     
  • anonymous posted at 8:48 am on Tue, Nov 18, 2008.

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    Before you accuse people of having brain damage, try to write at least one sentence without 20 spelling errors in it. IF it ever came to putting a lien on her house and IF she couldn't afford the penny, I am quite sure Debora Marcoccio would pay the penny herself AND probably buy Eileen a hot cup of coffee too. She was probably just as annoyed as most people here with common sense that anyone would complain about a freaking penny. Pay it and shut up! The best quote in this blog.

     
  • anonymous posted at 8:43 am on Tue, Nov 18, 2008.

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    Do you have to demonstrate serious brain damage before you're allowed to become a city employee in this backwater dorp? In in rationally organised town if you overpay or underpay your utility bills the outstanding balance is carried over to your next month's bill.Whoever is the freak who invented this ridiculous administrative procedure out to retrain to say "do you want fries with that?" Same goes for the nitwits like Debora Marcoccio. The usual procedure for unpaid utility bills is to shut off services when the bill gets a few months behind, not put a lien on the property for a one cent balance due. Oh yeah, now it makes sense. This happened in the Peoples Republic of Massachusetts. LOL! That explains it.

     
  • anonymous posted at 8:28 am on Tue, Nov 18, 2008.

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    Is she kidding...her mother is very upset about this? It's a penny, give me a break. I don't usually agree with the way the city operates, but just pay the penny and end it. Stop acting like you are the victim here, how have you been harmed? A 1-cent bill sent your blood pressure up, is she serious? What would make her happy an apology from the city of Attleboro for people doing their job? Pay the penny and move on (may I suggest an envelope and stamp), you've wasted enough of the City of Attleboro's time. Will it be breaking news when she actually pays it? Can't wait for that follow story in the paper.Matt Kakley and the Sun Chronicle should truly be embarrassed this story was even printed. This is newsworthy? Wow.

     
  • anonymous posted at 8:26 am on Tue, Nov 18, 2008.

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    Vorenious , send it to:Eileen Wilbur16 Glenn StreetSouth Attleboro, MASend 2 or 3 just in case she has some other bills she's short on.

     
  • grolsch6673yahoocom posted at 8:26 am on Tue, Nov 18, 2008.

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    I think the shame is on Eileen Wilbur and her daughter. Talk about a non-issue and someone crying out for attention. And then the former councilman grandstanding by paying it for her . . . glad we're all putting our attention to this most important issue versus other real issues our community is facing.I received a credit card offer for my son who is 13 months old - maybe I should call the SC and get on the front page with my complete disgust and outrage that such a thing should be allowed to happen . . . beacuse of a computer glitch. People are all over this as if it is of some importance (it is not) and then personally attacking the tax collector's character. BUT when they see someone in an accident or broken down on the side of the road, they can't be bothered. Fools.

     
  • anonymous posted at 8:21 am on Tue, Nov 18, 2008.

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    Who do I send this penny to?The idiots!

     
  • anonymous posted at 8:18 am on Tue, Nov 18, 2008.

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    I hold doors for women

     
  • anonymous posted at 8:10 am on Tue, Nov 18, 2008.

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    I want real news in my newspaper! Come on people...Demand real news not this fluff! Email or write the editor and demand real news stories. I'm so sick of this 15 minutes of fame news on the front page. I know in my neighborhood alone there are stories more interesting than this sillines! Is anyone in the same boat?

     
  • anonymous posted at 8:09 am on Tue, Nov 18, 2008.

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    It's annoying to see this story on CNN and Drudge, Attleboro gets a bad rap because some old lady is upset with her bill. You owe money, so pay it. Call the paper when they start billing you for money that you don't owe.

     
  • anonymous posted at 8:05 am on Tue, Nov 18, 2008.

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    Its sad how few people have a sense of humor today. This is no different than any other harmless glitch. Its also incredible how few really have any understanding of how things work. Those blaming the Mayor or others should remember the Collector is an ELECTED offical. How much money should the City spend to correct this software problem? As a computer network manager, trust me, no one gives this software away, espcially for a niche program where the developers can charge what they like. It may well be cheaper to pay the postage for a few of these than to buy new or updated software. (Since we haven't seen many of these in the paper, I suspect there aren't many City wide) For the effort that was made to get this in the paper, the penny should be paid we should all give it the laugh it deserves.

     
  • anonymous posted at 7:59 am on Tue, Nov 18, 2008.

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    Its Obamas Fault!

     
  • anonymous posted at 7:50 am on Tue, Nov 18, 2008.

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    dcrawf777: If the bill was for $100, $10, or a $1 is it still not owed? Would there be an article about the poor woman that owes for services rendered? Bottom line...you owe it, you owe it. Pay it and it all goes away.Additionally "You are a good global citizen, submit, obey, no matter..." NOT...I drive a gas suzzler,blast my horn at slower cars, don't hold doors for woman, keep my lights on way too much, eat red meat, don't recycle, hunt for sport, scoff at the establishment and spit in your general direction...

     
  • anonymous posted at 7:49 am on Tue, Nov 18, 2008.

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    If everyone wants to do something really useful with their Pennies, why not send them to the Christmas is for Kids toy drive or to the Attleboro Animal Shelter to help with real problems, not fake problems like being traumatized by getting a one cent bill.

     
  • anonymous posted at 7:48 am on Tue, Nov 18, 2008.

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    kat51 - "Our country is in financial crisis and the City spent 42 cents.".....did you reread that sentence before you posted it?? This amazes me....someone else made a good point about the REAL problems in the City....what's happening here?

     
  • anonymous posted at 7:42 am on Tue, Nov 18, 2008.

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    Everyone is freaking out over a penny being so insignificant that the City should disregard it....yet the 42 cent stamp is just so valuable that I believe some of you think City Officials should be hung for spending the 42 cents. The only way the city will 'continue spending 42 times the bill was worth' is if there is another underpayment of a penny. Stop being so dramatic everyone...

     
  • anonymous posted at 7:39 am on Tue, Nov 18, 2008.

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    This is not news. This woman says her blood pressure raised because she got a bill for one cent. I wish I had such problems. My kids bus stop is right next to a level 3 sex offender, now that's a problem. Must have been a slow news day around Attleboro to warrant the front page.

     
  • anonymous posted at 7:35 am on Tue, Nov 18, 2008.

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    Our country is in financial crisis and the city collector spends 41 more cents to mail out this statement!! Unbelievable... She could program the computer to NOT send out statements of amounts due less than $1.00. That would be common sense and obviously she has NONE.

     
  • anonymous posted at 7:34 am on Tue, Nov 18, 2008.

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    I hope no one is sending pennies to City Hall....give me a break. Have glitches like this never been heard of before? What's wrong with some of you people? I hope if the pennies are sent to City Hall....they display a large container of the pennies in the lobby with a sign saying 'Donate to Eileen Wilbur of South Attleboro. She NEEDS your pennies'. Then when it gets full of pennies from across the nation someone brings it to Eileen and dumps it on her lawn. GET A LIFE. PAY YOUR BILLS. Stop embarrassing this City.

     
  • anonymous posted at 7:32 am on Tue, Nov 18, 2008.

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    That's right wfk,Let the city keep spending 42 times the amount they are taking in. You are a good global citizen, submit, obey, no matter how absurd...there is no such thing as a bad government move. And you my friend get to pay the bill, not the city. Sound familiar.... bailout.... the war will pay for itself... you're with us or them....Recall Dumas

     
  • anonymous posted at 7:24 am on Tue, Nov 18, 2008.

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    I am really not understanding why this is news other than the fact that the city spent .42 to collect .01. I would like to see them upgrade their software to pick out any bill that cost more to mail than what is owed! I do however, believe the city is within their rights to collect a debt and if you multiply that by 100 people, well, you see the math... The city collector should look into a better tracking system! But hey, I'm from Texas and as usual everything is bigger in Texas so I havne't seen a penny bill.

     
  • anonymous posted at 7:21 am on Tue, Nov 18, 2008.

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    I am sending in .01 along with a letter requesting a receipt for my taxes.Two can play their little game! Imagine if 1000 people each do the same thing.. thats $410 in postage to either mail receipts, or to send refunds!

     
  • anonymous posted at 7:20 am on Tue, Nov 18, 2008.

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    PAY THE PENNY AND SHUT UP!!!!

     
  • anonymous posted at 7:17 am on Tue, Nov 18, 2008.

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    Everybody is a victim, pay the penny and stop crying.

     
  • anonymous posted at 7:14 am on Tue, Nov 18, 2008.

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    This is a fine example of why we need to just do away with the penny all together. It is totally outmoded. And if I remember right, it costs 1.4 cents to actually produce a penny. This is insanity.

     
  • anonymous posted at 7:11 am on Tue, Nov 18, 2008.

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    Disregard the number in my previous post, the real one is 508-223-2222... That was the fax machine... lol

     
  • anonymous posted at 7:08 am on Tue, Nov 18, 2008.

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    This is totally ridiculous and a waste of taxpayers time and money. The fact that they'd spend 42 times the amount of the bill to attempt to collect it is typical of what happens in governments all over the place. The thing that annoys me most about the story is the unapologetic attitude and general arrogance of Marcoccio in her comments. She can be reached at 508-222-3046, maybe she'd change her attitude after a few phone calls from the public letting her know what they think about this since she probably doesn't read this forum... :)

     
  • anonymous posted at 7:07 am on Tue, Nov 18, 2008.

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    Ah, just another day in the Peoples Republic of MA....you get what you deserve!!

     
  • anonymous posted at 7:06 am on Tue, Nov 18, 2008.

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    If you would like to pay Eileen Wilburs bill by check or money order.Make it payable to: City of AttleboroReference Eileen Wilburs account number 01-17900200Mail to:City Collector77 Park StreetP.O. Box 4127Attleboro MA 02703FYI Paying by credit card is not a good option. There is a $3 fee.

     
  • anonymous posted at 7:06 am on Tue, Nov 18, 2008.

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    This is ridiculous. I can't believe how out of proportion this has gotten. The tax collector CANNOT waive fees. She owed the money, blind or poor - it was owed no matter what the cost. She should have paid it and NOT call the Sun Comical to print this ridiculous story. No one was harrassed. Get over it!

     
  • anonymous posted at 7:04 am on Tue, Nov 18, 2008.

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    http://www.schenectadytoday.com/2008/11/18/city-sends-bill-for-01-cent-threatens-lien-on-property/That's funny - a whole city sending pennies.I can't wait to see a followup story on the number of pennies sent in from across the country.

     
  • anonymous posted at 6:55 am on Tue, Nov 18, 2008.

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    Ok this is absolutely ridiculous! This lady is ALWAYS walking to Stop & Shop, I have seen her on May St. numerous time alone and not having any bit of trouble. She locally i am sure and she is never wearing glasses. perhaps she is legally blind, but she is not "blind" she can read her mail, she shops alone, walks alone, walks dogs alone, she can pay her bills alone. This is ridiculous. Put the blind part out and wear your glasses, just for a news article... Wow, she must be looking for $$ and help.. poor blind women- cant read her mail, owes 1 cent to the city.. pay up, get over it and get something on the newspaper that actually means something! How ridiculous...

     
  • anonymous posted at 6:45 am on Tue, Nov 18, 2008.

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    Hey Dodgeman,The idiocy of the situation is paying 42 times the amount collected to collect it. With that justification Spending 42 million to collect 1 million in corp tax would be justified as long as you the taxpayer had to make up the 41 million dollar difference and not the smiley tax collector. That's the problem with the economy. Spending more to make money than you are taking in. Recall Dumas!

     
  • anonymous posted at 6:27 am on Tue, Nov 18, 2008.

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    why is everyone getting bent out of shape, a bill owed is a bill owed, they should have sent her a bill with a late fee like every other bill i have ever recd' for like $10.01 to cover these administrative costs SHE FORCED THEM TO INCUR! so what if she is blind that does not make a bit of difference. and like many others have said who want to put a cut off point in for small bills. then everyone would just pay that much less and the city would have to eat it. 41 cents times 8.5 mil people in new york equals $3,485,000.00 for just one month of that nonsense and thats just for one bill most people have four or more lets get real here.

     
  • anonymous posted at 6:22 am on Tue, Nov 18, 2008.

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    Hey! Everybody! Good old PAttleboro just made national news on the DRUDGE REPORT. Next stop Jay Lenos tonight show. The city hasn't made national headlines like this since the school banned tag.

     
  • anonymous posted at 6:12 am on Tue, Nov 18, 2008.

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    OMG! No one harrassed her. What if you didn't pay your bills? Would you expect a notice or action to be taken?? Yes, it was most likely an oversight on the woman's part but GET PAST IT. Why can't some of you people understand that bills need to be paid in full? Since when was that not expected?? Since a blind lady called the SC. Don't send your pennies to City Hall as some witty people below suggested...why don't we send them to the poor blind lady? Do you think she'd take offense?? Then she should keep her stupid story out of the paper.

     
  • anonymous posted at 6:07 am on Tue, Nov 18, 2008.

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    Harassing the blind for a penny, anything goes, now that we have Barack. He'll harass blind, white women, let Israel slide on 9/11 and bailout everyone. Same old crap from gov't, why not?Israel and 9/11, here:http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=309228910&blogID=441442669

     
  • anonymous posted at 6:01 am on Tue, Nov 18, 2008.

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    It's crazy how many people have a problem with the town collecting a penny from this woman. People just look for a reason to complain. She owed a penny, they billed her for a penny, who cares. Deal with it and pay what you owe. Who calls the newspaper and reports something like this?

     
  • anonymous posted at 5:54 am on Tue, Nov 18, 2008.

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    I would pay with visa, it would cost them more to run the visa card than one cent. I would explain all of this to the tax cow and then afterward go to the city council and show them how this department is being run.This chick should lose her job. This shows that she does not have any concept of efficient government. Some one will use this against the council come election time.

     
  • anonymous posted at 5:51 am on Tue, Nov 18, 2008.

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    ghostsouls...again, what if every resident paid their bill minus 41 cents? They would know the city would do nothing about it and over time it would add up. Why can't people understand that everyone has to pay the amount owed and if someone owes the city 1 penny then legally they have to pay it. I've received rewards checks for less than 5 cents and I thought it a shame that the company would waste their money sending me a check that I threw in the trash....but I also knew it was a computer generated thing. It's nothing to be outraged about. I can't believe the things people are saying below about the Tax Collector...'disgusted' writes, "These hooligans in charge should be drug tested and probed in all orifices, they are criminals stealing the states money and time and they are showing severe signs of mental breakdown"......really Disgusted?? Who is showing signs of a mental breakdown?

     
  • anonymous posted at 5:43 am on Tue, Nov 18, 2008.

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    The story just goes to show pettiness. It's inefficiency at it's finest. "It would be fiscally irresponsible for me to have staff weed through the bills and pull out any below a certain amount," Marcoccio said. " And what would that amount be?" Well, at least 42 cents. If you sent out bills for less than 42 cents, taking into consideration the cost of the paper, envelope and stamp, you have already lost money. You must have a very outdated billing system. Upgrade!' All software now allows you to set a threshold and it will weed them out, without human intervention. Get with the times, people. All the city wanted to do, is fine people $48, the amount of the bill is irrelevant. ANYONE, who works with this type of software knows, you can set a threshold for the amount to be billed. Then separate reports for those under the threshold would be generated so they can be looked at and printed individually if need be. In the end, it was a money generating scheme, for the $48 fines, and they didn't care who got fined, as long as they got the money.

     
  • anonymous posted at 5:39 am on Tue, Nov 18, 2008.

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    What's pathetic is that this was considered front page news and then worthy of an online update. qcdude3 has it exactly correct..the Tax Collector has a job to do and I'm sure restricted by certain rules but common sense and diplomacy would have made this a non issue at City Hall.

     
  • anonymous posted at 5:36 am on Tue, Nov 18, 2008.

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    "It's so upsetting," Wilbur said. "It sent my blood pressure up so high."Why would it be upsetting to get a bill for .01???If that happened to be I'd be tickled silly, not upset. It is just an example of the funny things that can happen in a computer age.I'd send the penny and have a good laugh. If she owed a penny, she should pay the penny! Why not? It is better than owing 100 pennies!

     
  • anonymous posted at 4:52 am on Tue, Nov 18, 2008.

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    This is crazy.....why should the city suck up anything less than a dollar.....a lot of people might just write out their checks for 99 cents less than owed each and every time....that would add up to a substantial amount. The amount owed is the amount owed and there are programs in place to report outstanding balances and take action...yes, too bad it's just a penny, but why can't she understand that it is owed to the City?

     
  • anonymous posted at 4:48 am on Tue, Nov 18, 2008.

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    HELP Mrs. Wilbur pay her bill - and have some fun! Send a penny to:Debora Marcoccio City Collector77 Park StreetP.O. Box 4127Attleboro MA 02703

     
  • anonymous posted at 4:35 am on Tue, Nov 18, 2008.

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    Thus it was ever so. We don't want tax collectors to think, we want drones. She asks, "what would that amount be?" How about calculating the amount it costs to process and send a bill and then receive and post payment? I'll bet you a penny she has no clue what that amount is. May Karma prevail. May Marcoccio find herself nose to nose with an unfair, unreasonable official who cuts her no slack.

     
  • anonymous posted at 4:31 am on Tue, Nov 18, 2008.

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    these troglidytes in charge here ought to get a severe thrashing about the collarbone to teach them manners and common sense. If I wanted Stalinism I wouldn't live in Attleboro, or then again maybe I would. This is simply insane degenerate behavior. These hooligans in charge should be drug tested and probed in all orifices, they are criminals stealing the states money and time and they are showing severe signs of mental breakdown. Douse them in cold water and bring them in for interrogation. I will conduct if you like in the interests of public service.

     
  • anonymous posted at 4:24 am on Tue, Nov 18, 2008.

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    This is absolutely pathetic!Front page news. I would have declined the interview and paid the penny.Not for nothing but let's face it there are alot of dead beats who do not want to pay their "bills" or perhaps they were "overlooked" and then they City goes after us to make increases so we have to pay for it in the long run.So I say- pay the penny!

     
  • anonymous posted at 4:21 am on Tue, Nov 18, 2008.

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    Hey Chartley, The city is spending 42 times the amount they are collecting. Can you spell village idiot?? I knew you could. Attleboro, unhindered by progress since 1694. They have now probably spent hundreds of dollars (in time and PR) to collect a penny. BRILLIANT!! Re-elect Dumas.

     
  • anonymous posted at 4:19 am on Tue, Nov 18, 2008.

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    Think how different the comments would be had the city official simply took the position "As soon as I became aware of the situation I paid the penny myself, its clear the city needs to review the current process maybe we can make adjustment to our notification process through the computer program. At any rate all automated process are somewhat inadequate simply because they attempt to have a 'one size fits all' solution, we can do better."

     
  • anonymous posted at 4:12 am on Tue, Nov 18, 2008.

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    There is a difference between the "law" and the "spirit of the law." Laws are written by humans and are just as fallible. When a government loses reasonable discretion over application of the law, it is time to change the law or the government.Would you like it if we were to take complete discretion away from an officer when he has you pulled to the side of the road? He has the discretion to simply warn you or ticket you. Maybe we should require that he ticket you 100% of the time.Lay off the lady and let her exercise her right to political protest.

     
  • anonymous posted at 4:06 am on Tue, Nov 18, 2008.

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    I would suggest everyone paying all city utility bills with pennies only.

     
  • anonymous posted at 3:56 am on Tue, Nov 18, 2008.

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    The City Collector is incompetent to say the least. The fact that the bill is computer-generated is no excuse. The computer can easily be programmed to reject any amount less than say $1 - there is then no need for staff to review the bills.However, if she is as pig-headed as she appears to be, the staff could waste their time and taxpayer resources by reviewing the bills for less than one dollar kicked out by the computer.This woman needs to be removed from office. In addition to being incompetent for her job, she is a menace. Sorry you folks are stuck with her!

     
  • anonymous posted at 3:51 am on Tue, Nov 18, 2008.

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    Why doesn't she just pay the penny?

     
  • grolsch6673yahoocom posted at 3:36 am on Tue, Nov 18, 2008.

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    "It was so upsetting and made her blood boil"? All she needs to do is submit payment of $.01 and the problem is solved???? Why create the drama in calling the paper, etc.? Because she wanted the attention, plain & simple. The lien was computer generated - a stupid thing, yes, but in the big scheme is it really something to get upset over and call to the attention of the SC? No.Save the drama for your mama . . . there goes your 15 seconds of fame madam, hope it was worth it.

     
  • anonymous posted at 3:32 am on Tue, Nov 18, 2008.

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    The city ordinance. How does 1 cent accumulate $48 in interest?16-18.4 (Amended 5/3/05) Bills for sewer use charges shall be issued on the same cycle as water bills and shall be de and payable within thirty (30) days of the billing date. Interest at the rate of twelve (12%) percent per annum from the date of the bill to the date of payment shall be collected for sewer use charges not paid within thirty (30) days of the date of the bill and thus deemed to be delinquent. any delinquent sewer use charge, together with the interest due, shall constitute a lien upon the real estate for which such service is supplied. Such items shall be processed in the same manner of liens for unpaid water bills. This ordinance to be effective May 5, 2005, with the Council giving permission to the Collector to enclosed a separate notice highlighting the change.

     
  • dougv-troncom posted at 3:15 am on Tue, Nov 18, 2008.

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    The US Mint says it costs 1.23 cents to make a penny....Why don't we get rid of the penny, you can't buy anything with it! As far as adding it to the next bill......not allowed to carry forward. Each tax year is a standalone per state law!!

     
  • anonymous posted at 3:04 am on Tue, Nov 18, 2008.

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    How old is the software that the city uses? I am a computer expert and I can tell you that if they bought a system in the past ten years that can't make a change such as "Print report of all accounts less than $5 but don't print letters" then they were ripped off. It's like my boss back in the 80's said - "you don't want to spend a dollar to control a nickel." Well Walt, you were only 4 cents off.I guess they need every penny for the ARA. Am I the first to mention that today?

     
  • anonymous posted at 2:51 am on Tue, Nov 18, 2008.

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    While I agree that the solution to this would be for small amounts (maybe under $5) to be added to the next bill, we should remember that the Collector would not be authorized to make that change. That would require City Council action. (Not to mention the fact, I am sure the SC would be all over the Collector for being so "unfair" in forgiving small amounts) Also, I believe the City uses an off the shelf "canned" program to send out the bills, and doesn't have a programming staff to change the system. A municipal lien does serve the purpose of ensuring that truely deadbeat owners will eventually pay their taxes. In this case, Mrs. Wilbur needs to pay up and the Collector needs to lighten up a bit.

     
  • anonymous posted at 2:39 am on Tue, Nov 18, 2008.

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    eileen, should have had her daughter, go down to the tax assessor, and pay the one cent. if i were her daugher, it would have given me great pleasure to go down there with one penny, and say here, you need it more than i do. even more pleasure if i had found the penny on the ground, which i see a lot today. i think that anything under a dollar, should be added to the next billing. it would save money both coming and going. it saves more cents. just a thought.

     
  • anonymous posted at 2:37 am on Tue, Nov 18, 2008.

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    A programmer worth his salt can make a simple change to the City's Account Receivable program to either zero out an amount that is less than $1 or add it to the next bill. City Collector Debora Marcoccio should ask the City's programming department to fix that program and avoid spending $0.42 to collect a penny.

     
  • anonymous posted at 2:36 am on Tue, Nov 18, 2008.

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    The lady should pay up.

     
  • anonymous posted at 1:52 am on Tue, Nov 18, 2008.

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    I hate to say this, but Attleboro sucks!!One penny???I've lived here for 12+ years and my love for this city is beginning to die more and more.

     
  • anonymous posted at 1:50 am on Tue, Nov 18, 2008.

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    friday25, Attleboro has done that in the past. They also add a finance charge for overdue amounts. chartley-sam mentioned, yes a slow news day. I would have gone to the collectors office with a penny and laughed about it rather then calling the paper.

     
  • anonymous posted at 1:34 am on Tue, Nov 18, 2008.

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    What I don't understand is why they didn't just add the penny to her next bill. I live in N. Attleboro and accidently wrote the check for my water bill for the wrong amount, I was off by a nickel. They just added the 5 cents to the next bill, no big deal. Technically the City Collector is right, but would it be so hard to apologize? If it were me I'd just forget the penny in favor of good customer service and common sense.

     
  • anonymous posted at 1:24 am on Tue, Nov 18, 2008.

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    Sounds like the reverse of going to city hall to pay a bill with a 5 gallon bucket of pennies.

     
  • anonymous posted at 1:18 am on Tue, Nov 18, 2008.

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    "A computer automatically printed the letters for any account with a balance remaining"Print letters for balances > $1 or whatever arbitrary amount makes sense. I'm no computer wizard but I believe computers are capable of such tasks. I would also think that a priority should be put on unpaid/ignored bills and move to the threat of a lien if two bills in a row are unpaid. This is a profitable move by the city. $48 would more then cover the postage and administration fees associated with the collection of a penny.

     
  • anonymous posted at 12:33 am on Tue, Nov 18, 2008.

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    Gee is the penny going to make the city go bankrupt. What a bunch of idiots, The same thing happened to me years ago for owing 10 cent on a utility bill. I sent a check for 10 cents. it cost me more than 10 cents for the envelope and the stamp and the check. Can we get back to reality, Please. does the word revolution ring a bell

     
  • anonymous posted at 12:31 am on Tue, Nov 18, 2008.

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    The only victim here is the City Collector who has to suffer though this drama. We all have to pay taxes! Must be a slow day at the SC to run this story.